Text 47, 132 rader
Skriven 2005-01-11 21:58:57 av Corey (163.alt_dos)
     Kommentar till text 46 av da Silva, Joe (1:2320/105.999)
Ärende: RE: PNW vs Netware (and NE2000 drivers)
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yep, PNW is too old for any netware from the last decade. err, I have a 25 user
netware 3.12 you can play with thou. only 22 floppy images too. or, if you 
really want to yank out all your hair, I can get you netware 5.1 or 6.0 to 
really drive you nuts.

Corey+

 > From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe.daSilva@ampymetering.com.au>
 > 
 > Sigh!
 > 
 > Over the holidays I've started (contemplating;-) experimenting with
 > networking two (or more;-) of my PC's. DR-DOS 7.XX comes with
 > PNW, so this seemed like an obvious choice to use.
 > 
 > Firstly, I established what I/O and IRQ resources were available
 > on these PC's, selecting I/O address 300h and IRQ 5 or IRQ 10
 > as suitable for use by a network card.
 > 
 > Secondly, I tried to identify what network cards I had and what
 > resouces they required (or could be configured to use). Initially,
 > I settled on a pair of SMC 8013EPC cards, until I realized they
 > would use up a 16K memory window, whereas I tend to make full
 > use of my UMB space for various DOS drivers and for EMS. Next,
 > I tried to identify a pair of old 8 bit Novell cards and a pair of (also
 > old) 16 bit Novell cards - AFAICT, these are NE1000 and NE2000
 > cards, respectively (well, they don't have a recognizable model
 > number, but the NE1000 and NE2000 packet drivers are happy to
 > load with them and report their MAC address correctly). Although
 > these cards only support IRQ 2 through 5 (I'd have preferred to
 > use IRQ 10), they don't require a RAM window, so are ideal for
 > a DOS environment. Since I expect the 16 bit cards will have
 > better performance over the 8 bit cards, I settled for the (AFAICT)
 > NE2000 cards.
 > 
 > Alas, when I tried to load the VLM ODI drivers (NE2000.COM is
 > 1996/04/01 vintage), I got the error message :
 > "The hardware configuration conflicts"
 > 
 > The same vintage NE1000.COM driver, using the same hardware
 > configuration (different card of course, same settings), loads
 > without any such error message.
 > 
 > Next, I tried installing the Client32 for DOS (version 2.71) drivers
 > with the NE2000 cards. Seemed OK, no such error message.
 > 
 > Well, it seems very strange to me that Novell's VLM ODI NE2000
 > driver isn't compatible with their own NE2000 card, yet that's what
 > the above suggests to me!   :-(
 > 
 > Since the Client32 NE2000 driver seems happy with the 16 bit
 > Novell cards, I though perhaps this would be a suitable (actually,
 > preferred, because it loads in XMS, leaving more free conventional
 > memory) driver to use with PNW. However, the posting below,
 > and other stuff I can find on the Internet, suggests these are not
 > compatible (also, I don't know if the Client32 stuff can perform
 > server-type functions for peer-to-peer networking).  :-(
 > 
 > So,
 > 
 > 1) Can anyone confirm (or otherwise) that Novell's VLM ODI NE2000
 > driver is broken, when using an original (early 90's) Novell card? 
 > 
 > 2) Have I correctly interpreted Ben's posting, which to me says that
 > the Client32 drivers are incompatible with PNW?
 > 
 > Joe.
 > 
 > > -----Original Message-----
 > > From:	Ben A L Jemmett [SMTP:ben.jemmett@ukonline.co.uk]
 > > Sent:	Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:34 PM
 > > To:	opendos@delorie.com
 > > Subject:	Re: File transfer util in DR-DOS? [PNW vs Netware]
 > > 
 > 	---------- snip ----------
 > 
 > > > I not in a position to do any heroic hardware upgrades on the machines,
 > > but
 > > > I do have an old 10-T hub which also has a coax port, and I was going to
 > > > plug the network cable from one of the computers into this, along with a
 > > > laptop.  I'm hoping that will get me on the network.  Once I am, will a
 > > > Netware client on the laptop be able to see the Personal Netware server
 > > and
 > > > log on for file sharing?
 > > 
 > > The old VLM client for DOS is the only one that will access a Personal
 > > NetWare
 > > server.  At a protocol level, PNW and NetWare itself are incompatible, so
 > > the
 > > other Novell clients won't talk to PNW.  I'm not sure if the Macintosh
 > > client
 > > will talk to PNW, since that's nothing to do with Novell these days, but I
 > > doubt it'll work.  At a transport level, Personal NetWare uses IPX.
 > > 
 > > Regards,
 > > Ben A L Jemmett.
 > > (http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ben.jemmett/, http://www.deltasoft.com/)
 > 
 > 
 > 
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