Text 478, 96 rader
Skriven 2007-02-23 19:55:00 av PETER COGGON
     Kommentar till en text av MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST
Ärende: Offensive Topics
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Hello again Michiel.,

 -=> Quoting Michiel Van Der Vlist to Peter Coggon <=-

 MVDV> On Monday February 19 2007 12:09, you wrote to me:

 MVDV>> "remarks of a personal nature, not important enough to warrant
 MVDV>> the use of the official telephone or telegraph service". Today,
 MVDV>> the authorities take a relaxed attitude towards this clause,
 MVDV>> but if the conversation gets too hot, you can - and will if
 MVDV>> monitored - get a yellow card.
 
 PC>    So if this is monitored, then the sysop of the local BBS who carrys
 PC> the message with this content is also "yellow carded"?

 MVDV> I am not sure what you mean. Local BBS? We are talking packet here are
 MVDV> we?  

  Yes, I am talking Packet Radio.   I say Local BBS, as I connect to
a on-air Packet BBS station located some miles to the south <40miles>
FBB BBS software  VE3YRA BBS in Aurora Ontario Canada.

While the packet station is owned by the local Ham Radio Club, there
is a sysop, and when the packet station transmits messages, and I
download them,  well if I believe there are rules for sysops, and
I know the sysop DOES monitor what is posted, would not the originator
of the message and the sysop be "yellow carded" for issueing the
offensive illegal message, as well the sysop for allowing the station
under his/her care to transmit it.   So often over here, we read
postings from sysops, that they had to purge, delete messages they
did not deem fit to be on their BBS ... 
 
 PC>   <Sorry it reminds me of football as the world knows it...or Soccer
 PC> as they call it in NA...>

 MVDV> Yep football (European) is where the term comes form. Yellow card =
 MVDV> warning. Red card -> out.

    Aaw yes...my wife loves FOOTBALL as the world knows it.  She 
is big fan, and just goes nuts here in the home following her favourite
team <*GRIN*>     Our agency here sends the licencee here a registered
letter, informing them of the offence...usually a warning, but sometimes
requesting an answer.   I do like the card idea ...
 
 PC>     What about the station issueing these statements?

 MVDV> The licensee(s) of the stattion bringing it on air would be held
 MVDV> accounatbel. 
 PC> Gee that would be nice if your country's regulatory agency would file
 PC> a complaint ...I'd love to see them get from this ham his  version and
 PC> his Freedom of Speech being violated by getting a yellow card.

 MVDV> I fail to see how pleading freedom of speech would help. It is in the
 MVDV> license conditions. The licensee accepted those conditions when
 MVDV> accepting the license. 

 MVDV> Cheers, Michiel, PA0MMV


 MVDV> -!- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20060315
 MVDV>  ! Origin: http://www.vlist.eu (2:280/5555)

  Well his Freedom of Speech is ok for the UK, but he loves to quote
areas of documents from other countrys, like Australia, and even 
Canada ... but then he ommits the court decisons where certain area
of an act on Freedom of Speech have been thrown out and are void.

  As he claims he is a world traveller, he might even read the
inside of his passport, that says, once you are in another country
their laws apply...not those of the UK ...might even find himself
being suited again or thrown out of the country he is visiting.
 
 Anyhow,  thats his view on offensive topics like "sex"  "racial"
"religion" and "politics" are OKAY ... MMMM.,,, well ... I had my
say...disagreed with him  < 1million plus sites on Internet agree>
got a verbal lashing, with nasty rude comments, and a legal threat
I laughed at ...   Just incredible.

 Thank you Michiel and everyone else for your imput on this topic
and it proved one thing that our pal in the UK was wrong about
the message boards.... WE all commented...had our say...and we
have all parted as friends .... that is totally the opposite
of what he said on bringing this on the Internet message boards
<BBSes> ... so everyone give themselves a good slap on the 
back and a well done.

ttfn

Peter  VE3WBZ



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