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Skriven 2006-06-01 11:59:00 av Robert E Starr JR (1543.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Atheists: America's m
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@REPLY: <zJJeg.88148$H71.40092@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:40:19 +0000 (UTC), Kurt Ullman
<kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In article <4klt72p46hohscameq55moletog90pdf15@4ax.com>,
> Paul Harper <paul@harper.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:55:35 +0000 (UTC), Kurt Ullman
>> <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> >In article <4e7bunF1ddm8nU1@individual.net>,
>> > Rob Perkins <rperkins@usa.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I could emit less. I already emit far *far* fewer pollutants than the 
>> >> average American anyway. I don't think you ought to dare suppose that 
>> >> I'm not aware of things.
>> >> 
>> >   The average American already emits FAR less than they did in the 50s 
>> >and 60s of pretty much everything nasty.
>> 
>> Do you have some credible source for that?  I'd be interested in
>> seeing the raw numbers, especially given the heavy metal pollution
>> that disposal of electronic equipment causes these days compared to 50
>> years ago.
>
>      Don't have anything I can find right off that goes back to the 
>60s. However, I do have some from the EPA (as published in the US 
>Statistical Abstract) that show major changes from 1970 to 2002. 
>http://www.census.gov/prod/2005pubs/06statab/geo.pdf
>Specifically Table 360. National Air Pollutant Emissions: 1970 to 2002
>    Which shows major cuts (CO2 and Sulphur Dioxide for instance cut 
>roughly in half, lead cut by something like 98%) across all of the 
>measured pollutants. I think most of us would agree that 1970 was 
>probably the high point, and probably an even better metric than the one 
>I originally touched on. 
>
> 
>   From an article by Jeffrey Heolmstead:
>
> "Under the Clean Air Act, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has 
>focused on six key air pollutants that have a significant impact on 
>public health and the environment: ozone, particulate matter, carbon 
>monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, sulfur dioxide, and lead. Since President 
>Nixon signed the 1970 Clean Air Act, emissions of these pollutants have 
>been cut by more than half-from 273 million metric tons of annual 
>emissions to 133 million metric tons. The reductions for individual 
>pollutants are just as impressive. Over the same period, emissions of 
>lead decreased 98 percent, volatile organic compounds (contributors to 
>ground level smog) 54 percent, carbon monoxide (CO) 52 percent, sulfur 
>dioxide (SO2) 49 percent, and nitrogen oxides (NOx) 24 percent.
>Perhaps most impressive, these reductions in air pollution came during a 
>period of robust economic growth. Between 1970 and today, the U.S. 
>economy grew by more than 187 percent, the number of vehicle miles 
>traveled in the United States increased by 171 percent, and U.S. energy 
>consumption grew by 47 percent."
>http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/0605/ijge/holmstead.htm

Neither of which covers all pollutants (particularly the metal
pollution I mentioned) or the entire period of your assertion. Maybe
the UN has figures. I'll go have a dig, see what I can find. They must
be around somewhere.

Paul.
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