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Skriven 2007-01-29 10:01:23 av John Duncan Yoyo (14461.babylon5)
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 10:32:09 +0100, Angelika Tobisch <kamyra@arcor.de>
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>John Duncan Yoyo schrieb:
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>> I do mean Sci-Fi as opposed to SF. =20
>
>The difference being?
>
Lost in Space is Sci-fi.
2001 is SF.

I'll stand on the shoulders of giants and post a chart from Gharlane
that addressed the classes of Speculative Fiction.  It springs to life
in a box with a nice fixed width font.

+-------------- Gharlane's handy dandy spec-fic chart -----------+
|                                                                |
|                                                                |
|                                                                |
|                     SPECULATIVE FICTION                        |
|                 ( fiction set in a reality                     |
|            /      that does not exist )                        |
|          /                             \                       |
|        /                                 \                     |
|    FANTASY                           SCIENCE FICTION           |
| ( fiction which                   ( Fiction based on a         |
|   cannot occur )                    projection of current      |
|      |       \___________           knowledge which is         |
|      |                   |          legitimately defensible )  |
| CLASSIC FANTASY          |          /             \            |
| ( elves, magic, wizards, |        /                 \          |
|   "Social Security" )    |    SOFT SF              HARD SF     |
|   Emphasis on mythic     |  ( one or more    ( Based on        |
|   archetypes and quests  |    presumptions;    stuff we know   |
|                  ________|    ESP, FTL,        we'll be able   |
|                  |            or one major     to build )      |
|               SCI-FI          departure       Emphasis on      |
|         ----  ( Fantasy       from known      checkable math,  |
|       /         with          reality. )      logic, and info; |
|   SKIFFY      SF props       Emphasis on      characters think |
|  ( largely    substituted    human reaction.  and solve.       |
|  excrement )  for "magic.")  and action.            |          |
|       |            |               |                |          |
|  +--------------------------------------------------------+    |
|  |   SPACE OPERA --- can be SkiFfy to Sci-Fi  to Hard SF  |    |
|  +--------------------------------------------------------+    |=20

Link to a post by Gharlane with his definitions-
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D859ctn%24cig%40news.csus.edu
This is worth reading.

Gharlane defined SCI-FI as-
>"SCI-FI" is Fantasy that lifts props from Science Fiction without laying=
 the groundwork or establishing the need for technology. ( example;  Cric=
hton could just as easily be a human transported across the Rainbow Bridg=
e to Asgard, being Earnestly Interviewed by Loki; we haven't seen any use=
 of actual technology that can't be handled just as easily with Magic Spe=
lls; he has a Magic Spell to get home with, but it's clouded until the Ri=
ght Time.  At least Manning had the class to slip "Froonium" in as *inten=
ded* as guff. )=20

His Definition for SF is two fold
>"Hard Science Fiction" is written by people who know enough of science a=
nd technology to know what is possible, and create a narrative milieu bas=
ed on the availability of something we haven't got yet, but can have.=20
>VERY few people do "Hard Science Fiction" without slipping over the=20
>edge here and there, so the real thing is very rare indeed. =A0On TV,=20
>the only two examples I can think of offhand are "MEN INTO SPACE"=20
>and "STAR COPS."=20
>"Soft Science Fiction" is an exercise in coherent extrapolation; given=20
>one presumption, how would life/society/human beings be affected, and=20
>what would they do about it? =A0Historically, some fairly wild one-=20
>presumption schticks have been allowed, when developed with skill and=20
>respect by the writer involved. =A0( My favorite examples here are=20
>Alfred Bester's two best books, "TIGER, TIGER" and "THE DEMOLISHED=20
>MAN," which aside from a few noncritical props, posit only one=20
>departure from present knowledge, the trainability of ESP powers. )=20
--=20
John Duncan Yoyo
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