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Skriven 2007-01-31 17:00:56 av Charlie Edmondson (14680.babylon5)
  Kommentar till text 11219 av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (14656.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Cath0licism and Creati=nism
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Amy Guskin wrote:

>>>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:27:24 -0500, Shabaz wrote
> 
> (in article <1170271644.914658.290500@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>):
> 
> 
>>On Jan 31, 4:57 pm, Amy Guskin <aisl...@fjordstone.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:53:55 -0500, Vorxion wrote
>>>>
>>>>Nevermind that evolution as held in large belief is likely a fallacy.  See
>>>>James P. Hogan's book, "Kicking the Sacred Cow".  Also a good source of
>>>>real information regarding the myth known as Global Warming, <<
>>>
>>>Myth??  _Nobody_ disputes that the Earth is getting warmer.  They do still
>>>dispute the _why_ of it, but nobody is disputing the _fact_ of it anymore.
>>>
>>>Amy
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>>Actually, the why hasn't really been under mayor scientific dispute
>>any more either: it's anthropogenic. There is plenty of debate and
>>open questions in the climate science community, otherwise it wouldn't
>>be science. But whether it is likely or not that anthropogenic global
>>warming is happening isn't really one of them. For evidence, take a
>>look at the reports the IPCC puts out (at ipcc.ch), which are probably
>>the most rigorously peer reviewed reports in pretty much the entire
>>field. There is a consensus position (see for instance a Nature
>>published study: Beyond the Ivory Tower,  The Scientific Consensus on
>>Climate Change at http://tinyurl.com/5fdqg), and it includes the
>>anthropogenic in anthropogenic global warming. <<
> 
> 
> You are, as they say, preaching to the choir (says the woman who has a link 
> in her sig to her husband's song with suggestions about how to make a 
> difference in what's going on with global climate change <g>).  I didn't say 
> that people are _right_ to dispute it, or that there is any _validity_ to 
> disputing it; just that there are, indeed, people who dispute it.   :-)
> 
> (Hopefully, the people who _need_ to read what you posted in your reply to me

> will see it!)
> 
> 
>>>As for James P. Hogan, excuse my words, but he seems like a crazy to
>>
>>me. Stating on his website that he thinks holocaust deniers are "more
>>scholarly, scientific, and convincing than what the history written by
>>the victors says" (http://tinyurl.com/234ubu scroll down to 22
>>february 2006) is probably the most extreme example I can find. <<
> 
> 
> Yeah.  I probably shouldn't go there, because I'm not in the mood to have a 
> stroke today.  :-p
> 
> Amy
Hi Amy,
Don't know about that website, but you would probably enjoy Hogan's 
ideas.  I feel you are pretty open minded...

Basically, he likes to take some 'fact' accepted by everyone, and then 
point out how much of the basis for this fact is actually bad science or 
just PR.  I don't doubt that the fiction written by the holocaust 
deniers is as plausibly written as possible.  They have a lot of facts 
to deny!

Charlie
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