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Skriven 2007-02-02 12:26:15 av Carl (14806.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: Cath0licism and Creati=nism
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"Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message 
news:0001HW.C1E8D41C0267A85CF0182648@news.verizon.net...
>>> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:51:56 -0500, kurtullman@yahoo.com wrote
> (in article <1170431516.602922.269060@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
>
>> On Feb 1, 10:03 pm, Josh Hill <userepl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Part of their cynical campaign consists of convincing the public that
>>> science has somehow been corrupted, while oh-so-honest politicians and
>>> oil companies have quaffed at the grail of truth.
>>
>>   Sorta like Gore's movie in the opposite. "If all you have is a
>> hammer, everything looks like a nail"   He's got an agenda and, like
>> Bush, tends to work real hard to ignore any evidence that might be to
>> the contrary. Damn humans!!<<
>
> Where have you found credible evidence to the contrary of _any_ of the
> information in Gore's film?  My understanding is that you (the universal
> "you") haven't read widespread disputation of his facts because there 
> _isn't_
> any.  No one's been able to point to any one thing in the film and 
> disprove
> it.

It's difficult to disprove *predictions* before the fact, but that doesn't 
make them true.

On Jan 18, the WSJ referenced the UN climate panel's report that expects a 1 
foot sea level rise over this century, rather than the 20 feet that Gore 
predicts.  Does the panel *prove* the sea level won't rise 20 feet?  No, but 
then again choose carefully which source you wish to claim as having 
scientific validity. :)

Sure, the climate's changing.  We should minimize the negative damage as 
much as is practical to do so.  That's the catch really...what's practical 
to do. You *really* want to minimize the effects of humans on the planet? 
Reduce the population by 2/3.   Of course that's not going to happen unless 
there's a big war.

All of the things that are practical and reasonable (and won't destroy the 
economy) won't be enough to make much difference for a very long time.  That 
doesn't mean that we shouldn't try to minimize the damage we cause, but get 
past the "If we don't do this right now..." rhetoric  and accept that if GW 
proponents are right, we're going to have to deal with it and everyone in 
the US giving up cars completely and having solar panels and windmills in 
our back yards won't prevent it.

Let's say Gore is right and the oceans are going to rise 20 feet.  Then the 
"Inconvenient" part of that truth is that  people should move away from the 
coasts.  I would think this is also an argument against rebuilding New 
Orleans.

There may be some benefits to this.  Last week in MN they were going to have 
a gathering to discuss GW as part of the winter carnival but they had to 
cancel it because of cold weather.

Carl
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