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Text 11468, 62 rader
Skriven 2007-02-03 11:42:58 av Carl (14907.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: My Presidential Pick for 2006
=========================================

"Angelika Tobisch" <kamyra@arcor.de> wrote in message 
news:45c46864$0$18843$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net...
> Carl schrieb:
>
>> I don't care what's presumed... my actions in public have no motive
>> to indicate anything to the people around me.  If two guys have
>> rings on, few would notice or care.  It's when people go out of their
>> way to draw attention to themselves and their agenda that it becomes
>> distasteful to me, and I generally don't care what the agenda is.
>>
>> I've said in the past I don't see the point to protest marches either.
>
> I do. I see it every time I cross the line telling me that this is where
> the Berlin Wall used to be.

You see the primary reason the wall came down as being protest marchers? 
Interesting.  Since you're obviously closer to the issue I'll take that into 
account.

Perhaps it's just me.  I see a protest march and it's a group of people 
complaining about something.  I may agree with their complaint, but the fact 
that they're complaining in the streets en masse does not add or detract 
from the issue (at least to me).   I can't think of a time that I've seen 
people in the streets and not been aware of the issue before the march,nor 
has a march ever changed my mind on a subject.

<self editing out  my boring rambling on what happens when one side of a 
march or the other acts badly>

<Rant coming... and Angelika, when I say "You" below, I don't mean you 
personally, I mean it generically, ok?>

There are so many marches and rallys and protests that you can start a 
dedicated cable network for them. There's always flags burned, or people 
being burned in effigy, extreme rhetoric...with the other side almost always 
a nazi, or a racist, or some other evil monster.  There don't seem to be 
that many truly "civil" protests any more.  Perhaps there are, but they 
don't get the media coverage any more, which pretty much reduces their 
effectiveness.  To many people are complaining about too many things and now 
everyone's message is being drown out by everyone else's message.

Instead, now it's PETA pouring paint on people wearing fur or breaking into 
labs and releasing lab animals, or destroying the whole lab, 
environmentalists spiking trees and wounding or killing loggers, or 
destroying businesses and property during a protest march in the city 
hosting an economic summit.

Most people that protest are extremely earnest and civil, but it seems that 
more and more people are becoming almost rabid about their demand to be 
heard... to the point that I don't want to listen.   ***I'll*** decide who I 
listen to, thank you very much.  I'm tired of people demanding my attention. 
Put up a web site. Start a blog. Go on a talk show (there's no shortage of 
them).  Quietly ask me to consider your view and tell me where the info is 
and I'm more likely to look atit  if/when I get the time...but don't demand 
that I find your issue as important as you do.

Rant over.  Sorry.

Carl
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