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Skriven 2007-02-05 21:11:09 av Josh Hill (15054.babylon5)
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Ärende: Re: Cath0licism and Creati=nism
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On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:32:29 -0600, "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
<ala_dir_diver@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Josh Hill" <usereplyto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:6g9ds295hfup3safka1nj94aujh3vgk2ep@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 01:34:12 GMT, Jeffrey MacHott
>> <Raguleader@netzero.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Dennis (Icarus) wrote:
>> >> "Josh Hill" <usereplyto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:f4b7s2ta264pav38btnevcmft3opciinr1@4ax.com...
>> >> <snip>
>> >>> Wind turbines, nuclear plants, cellulosic ethanol, PEM fuel cells,
>> >>> plug-in hybrids, geothermal heat pumps, and basic conservation
>> >>> measures are more than adequate to avert the most serious consequences
>> >>> of greenhouse gas emissions. Far from causing an economic disaster,
>> >>> the implementation of those technologies would add little to our
>> >>> energy costs -- but only if we start now.
>> >>>
>> >>> It is nothing less than criminal that that is not being done -- that
>> >>> George Bush went back on the promise he made to the American people
>> >>> six years ago -- and that ideologues and corporations continue to
>> >>> confuse the public with their pseudo- and anti-scientific rot.
>> >>
>> >> There are folks trying to do something. Heck, there are folks trying to
>> >> establish a wind farm off Nantucket and they're running into all kinds
>of
>> >> resistance.
>> >>
>> >> Dennis
>> >
>> >IIRC, one problem with wind farms is that windmills make surprisingly
>> >good bird swatters, because birds like to perch on the supports for the
>> >windmill, but when they attempt to take flight, the wind blows them into
>> >the blades.
>>
>> Not a problem anymore, as I understand it.
>>
>> The problem with Nantucket is different: this particular wind farm
>> would blight a rare national treasure. Its an example of the right
>> idea in the wrong place, the equivalent of erecting a skyscraper in
>> Yellowstone National Park or the Grand Canyon.
>
>And there you hit on one of the problems. Pretty much regardless where you
>put the windfarm or nuclear power plant, someone who lives there will
>consider it to be a blight.

But Nantucket is a special case, wild, beautiful, unique and
wonderful. Meanwhile, farmers love turbines -- don't interfere with
farming, and provide extra income, so there are lots of places where
they'd be welcome, and they happen to have some of the richest wind
resources. The other resource-rich area -- which has the advantage of
being located by our major population centers -- is the coast.
Turbines could be located over the horizon, possibly on floating
platforms, although the electricity they produced would cost a few
cents per kW-hr more.

Similarly, I've long thought that nuclear plants should be located in
remote, easily-evacuated areas, where there will be little economic
damage in the event of a meltdown or terrorist attack.

As so often, it's not that there aren't reasonable, common-sense
solutions so much as that the system isn't very good at making
sensible choices, e.g., many people won't accept the construction of
nuclear plants anywhere, while industry and its paid-off politicians
make irresponsible siting choices on the other.

-- 
Josh

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