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Skriven 2006-06-02 00:20:00 av Robert E Starr JR (1690.babylon5)
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 23:57:50 +0000 (UTC), "Vorlonagent"
<jt@otfresno.com> wrote:

>Paul,
>
>You and I are both going to miss Gore's big film for the same reason: We 
>already know what he's going to say.

No. I will be seeing what he has to say first hand. It's the only
valid way to be able to express an opinion on it: Unfiltered.

>The new issue of US News and World Report that came in the mail today (with 
>Gore's film as the cover story) confirmed my entire analysis stream.

Is it not possible that their reporting mirrors a personal bias? I am
not saying your personal bias is wrong, merely that your choice in
reading material will tend to mirror it. I know mine does, and I am
aware of that, which is why I prefer to view stuff first hand.

It's also a reason why from time to time I pick up the right-wing
press we have here and read it. To see what the other side is saying
from their own mouths, as it were, however uncomfortable and angry it
makes me.

[snip]

>Newsweek's article contained this sentence: "Even if people everywhere 
>unplugged their appliances, left their cars home, and shuttered their 
>factories today, enough fossil fuel emissions are already in the atmosphere 
>to heat up the planet and additional 1 degree fahrenheit this century, 
>experts say."  What experts?  How did they arrive at this conclusion?  Who 
>funded their work?  What are the political leanings of these experts as well 
>as those funding this work?

Well, had you watched last night's BBC programme, you will have seen
Attenborough spend a lot of time interviewing the head of the UK
Meteorological Office - the government funded weather prediction
service for the UK. 

They have been predicting weather for decades, and like the US
equivalent have some of the most powerful computing technology around.

They have been using weather models established over those decades to
attempt to predict the future effects of current temperature changes
and concluded that average global temperatures will rise between 2 and
6 degrees before the end of the century.

Which doesn't sound a lot, but the effect, at a minimum, of that will
mean no ice left in Greenland.

And the net effect of *that* will mean that average sea levels
globally will be some seven metres higher than they currently are.

And that's the minimum. In 90 years.

Now last time I looked, the UK Metrological Office was not high on the
list of radical left-wing organisations. It was a staid, conservative,
government-run organisation that is careful about its work. It has all
the credibility it needs in these matters.

But opponents of doing anything will not see it that way, of course.

>$20 paid via Paypal says that "Inconvienent Truth" will focus on the 
>negative consquences of Global Warming (powerful hurricanes, ecosystems 
>under stress, rising sea levels, etc.) and also concentrate on the 
>pollution/CO2 output of human civilization.  Gore will not undertake any 
>detailed discussion of what parts of global warming is due to humans and 
>what is due to nonhuman causes.  The film will set a deadline for strong 
>human correcting action and that deadline will be at or before 2020.
>
>Any takers?

I think he's being conservative. It's going to have to be earlier than
that. But by the sounds of it (and I haven't seen it yet) he's being
realistic.

>> That's okay. Those of us who are willing to fight on behalf of
>> everyone - whether you want it or not - will shelter you from the
>> effects of such inaction if we possibly can, and if we can't at least
>> we died trying.
>
>Go ahead and be a good soldier.  Pat yourself on the back for free thinking 
>while you repeat what you're told verbatim and without question.
>
>I will continue to collect unbiased information as I find it.

Doesn't sound like you're off to a good start, John.

Paul.
                       
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