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  Kommentar till text 12810 av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (16253.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: JMS spotlight at NYCC
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On Mar 1, 2:19 pm, Richard Fallstrom <rick.fallst...@donobi.net>
wrote:
> In article <0001HW.C20C406401F3A26AF0182...@news.verizon.net>, Amy
>
>
>
> Guskin <aisl...@fjordstone.com> wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:20:37 -0500, robin.m...@gmail.com wrote
> > (in article <1172668836.861539.12...@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
>
> > > On Feb 27, 3:45 pm, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> "John W. Kennedy" <John.W.Kenn...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > >> messagenews:1172544488.317642.22620@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
>
> > >>> On Feb 25, 9:57 pm, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>>> Thanks for looking that up and providing the URL and definitions.
> > >> I'm
> > >>>> surprised that there was an entry for it.  Seems too specialized,
> > >> sort
> > >>>> of TV Producer Greek.
>
> > >>> Not at all. It's standard terminology in dramatic criticism, less
> > >>> common than "tragedy" or "climax", but more common (at least,
> > >>> nowadays) than "anagnorisis" or "peripeteia".
>
> > >> Thanks to both John and Robin for responding, but to me (an electrical
> > >> engineer/DBA), it's Greek, and I'm not fluent in Greek. ;-)  The
> > >> terminology in dramatic criticism or dramatic production is not an area
> > >> I've explored much.  When the word "set-piece" was used, the only thing
> > >> that came to mind, the only "hit" I got, was something "physical" on a
> > >> "set" that maybe stood out, like the Hugo in SiL.  Beyond that, I was
> > >> like Londo looking at a naked Vorlon.
>
> > > Fair enough. Though I should point out that I'm a computer programmer:
> > > this isn't any kind of professional knowledge. For me it's just a
> > > commonly used phrase. I could have said something like: "Did you see
> > > the latest Bond film? All the usual big action set-pieces were present
> > > and correct, but it actually had a really emotional story and some
> > > good acting too, for a change", and I'd be surprised if anyone didn't
> > > understand what I meant. <<
>
> > See, and this is exactly why _I_ was confused (can't speak for Mac,
> > obviously), and why I questioned Jan about it.  I kept hearing about a set
> > piece that was to _precede_ the credits, and generally you think of set
> > pieces as large, showy scenes that can be singled out and identified (like
> > saying "the pod-racing scene from Episode 1"), that take up a chunk of time
> > in the film, and which generally wouldn't precede the credit sequence, I
> > don't think.  Anyway, it's abundantly clear now (again, to _me_).
>
> > Amy
>
> Hmmm. I am beginning to see that a "set-piece" is what I use to call a
> "lead-in" which is that first bit before the credits which whets the
> mental appetite to see the rest of the episode.
>
> Rick (sometimes is a GentleRF and sometimes is not)
> .


No, not at all (in fact the post you're replying to says that a set
piece generally *wouldn't* come before the credits.) The major set-
piece in The Two Towers would be the Battle of the Hornburg at Helm's
Deep, for example. I suppose you could think of set-pieces as the
'showy' moments of a work, with the character development, plot
exposition and scene-setting as the connective tissue in between and
around the set-pieces.
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