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Amy Guskin wrote:

>>>On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 03:20:28 -0400, Rob Perkins wrote
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> (in article <4ea74lF1e5255U1@individual.net>):
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>>Amy Guskin wrote:
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>>>I haven't thought about it, and I don't think it's a neat sort of formula 
>>>that you can apply to everyone.  I just know that I'm not doing enough 
>>>because I don't feel the slightest bit deprived - and considering my 
>>>standard 
>>>of living compared to people elsewhere in the world, a little deprivation 
>>>now 
>>>and then wouldn't hurt me at all - and I know there are specific areas 
>>>where 
>>>I take the easy way out and rationalize it.
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>>So: If your health permits it, skip two meals in a row, as often as is 
>>healthy and as regularly as you choose, and donate triple the value of 
>>the meals to a charity of your choice. Or pick your own amount. You'll 
>>feel deprivation. <<
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, that's not an option for a diabetic.  Skipping meals, very 
> bad.  That's the way to have your blood sugar take a dive and end up falling 
> down flights of stairs and breaking your shoulders...
> 
> For me, serious deprivation might entail taking the train to visit my parents

> next time I go up to New York.  Now, that may not _sound_ very deprived, but 
> instead of a two and a half or three hour drive with all of my stuff packed 
> neatly into the trunk, my husband and I would have to walk the mile to the 
> train station carrying our luggage, get on the regional rail for a 45-minute 
> (if all local stops are made) trip into the city, change trains to either the

> regional rail or the Amtrak (let's assume the regional rail because Amtrak is

> very expensive for two of us), take a 45-minute trip up to Trenton, change 
> trains to NJ Transit (NJ's regional rail), take a 90-minute trip to Penn 
> Station NY, change trains to the Long Island Railroad, take a 40-minute trip 
> to Oceanside, and wait for my parents to come by and pick us up.  So, 2.5 
> hours versus about five hours (that counts wait time between trains; I've 
> done this trip once in a blue moon, so I know how the schedules affect your 
> overall time), plus time spent walking the mile to the train station 
> initially, all done while carrying _far_ too much luggage.  But doing it via 
> public transportation would certainly be more personally responsible, from an

> ecological viewpoint.
> 
> Amy
> 
Hi Amy!
Don't feel too bad about it.  Actually, if you really accounted for all 
the expenses involved in that 'ecologically sound' public transport, 
using your personal car would probably be a wash!  There are a lot of 
hidden expenses and pollutions in that public transport solution that 
make it not as green as most would like.  (It costs a lot of money and 
energy to maintain those rights of way, the huge wastes of your time to 
get from train A to train B, etc.)

As long as you don't drive a Suburban with just the two of you in it, 
you are probably pretty well off.

Actually, my present VW Jetta wagon is the largest car I have ever 
owned, but I bought it because I was going to build a new house, and 
knew I would be hauling stuff back and forth.  Before this, I had a 
saturn (much like the G'Car, even blackberry in color...) but that was 
too large and too small at the same time.  Before that I had a Geo 
Metro, a Justy, and a couple of Fiestas.

In the east, where you have actual weather, I can actually see having a 
4WD vehicle.  Hear in California, if you don't live in the mountains, I 
don't understand the attraction... 8-)

Charlie
                                                                      
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