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Skriven 2007-04-06 08:04:54 av Carl (16814.babylon5)
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Ärende: Re: Attn JMS: The five stages of grief and  "FALLEN SON: THE     DEATH 
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"Vorlonagent" <nojtspam@otfresno.com> wrote in message 
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> "Carl" <cengman7@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
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>>> I fully expect Cap to be dead for years to come.  Last I heard, Marvel 
>>> runs on the 7-year plan.  To wit: The majority of their reader-base 
>>> turns over every 7 years or so.  That means once something's 7 years in 
>>> the past, it may as well have not happened.
>>
>> Interesting.  Since my friends have been collecting for a lot longer than
>> 7 years and tell me that comics are more for adults than kids now that
>> seems strange.
>
> Comics explore more adult themes and have a more adult outlook.  But 
> Marvel still thinks they're core audience is 14-college.
>
> We don't count.

Interesting that Marvel would seem to ignore a target it had previously
spent years cultivating, particularly since they shifted to more adult
themes.


>>> At that point, they can bring Cap back as if he never went away.  Have a 
>>> set of "He's back!" issues with 5 different foil covers to drive the 
>>> collectors nuts, then treat him as if he's always been there.
>>
>> John, with those two sentences you've completely convinced me that I'm 
>> too
>> old for comics.  Something of a pity too, the recent attention to Cap 
>> made me  remember how much I looked forward to reading about my favorite 
>> characters.
>> Now I think I'd be very disappointed if I renewed my interest.
>
> At most, you're too old for mainstream comics.  You can find some good 
> indy stuff.
>
> There are ways to try before you buy.
>
>
>>>> On the other hand, I heard that Thor was given a better way to rest for 
>>>> a while and JMS is writing his return.   I trust that JMS will keep 
>>>> Thor's nobility intact (they didn't kill that off over the years did 
>>>> they?).  I hope that's very successful.
>>>
>>> They tried.
>>>
>>> Eric Masterson.
>>
>> I have no idea who that is but I don't like the sound of it.
>
> From what little I know Masterson was an attempt to give Thor a modern 
> street-tough angle.  Keep the butt-kicking and lose all that 
> shakespere-sounding morality.

How odd.  Reduce Thor to every other powered up wnna be?

I would think that one of the things that separated Thor from others was
his morality; the manner in which he assumed the responsibilities of
being the son of Odin and a god of Asgard.

I would think that the longevity of the a god and the context that would
give him should be exploited rather than discarded. Otherwise just make
him some guy with a high tech mallet forget about Odin, Asgard, etc.

>> I heard that now Iron Man has become an egomaniacal control freak?
>
> I'm hoping it will turn out to be the alternate-universe Tony Stark but 
> yes. He was the driving force behind the registration law that triggered 
> the civil war.
>
> Pity too.  I liked Iron Man too.
>
>
>> Are there any good guys left?
>
> I'm afraid you'll have to define that.

Cap's dead.  Iron Man seems to have lost some of the shine on his
armor.  Thor had been reduced to a powerful butt-kicker before
his rest.  I don't think they'd make Spiderman a bad guy (way too
popular and making money in movies), but if Marvel decided that
Thor couldn't even be noble (or did you say "Moral") then who
in the Marvel universe stands for anything?    Is there any character that's
looked on as anything more someone in a costume with powers?


>> <Sigh/>
>>
>> My 11 year old son was asking about comics recently. I think I will 
>> discourage this;
>> the Marvel universe is too depressing a place and apparently not written 
>> for kids anyway.
>
> Not 12-year olds, no

Then my son has lost an opportnity to enjoy some of the things that
I did as a kid.  How sad.

Carl
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