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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 05:26:58 +0000 (UTC), "Vorlonagent"
<jt@otfresno.com> wrote:

>
>"Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message 
>news:0001HW.C0A51BC3009932F5F0284530@news.verizon.net...
>>>> On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:24:03 -0400, Vorlonagent wrote
>> (in article <YgGfg.105820$dW3.66954@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>):
>>
>>>
>>> "Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:kurtullman-84D589.12520301062006@news.west.earthlink.net...
>>>> In article <JKEfg.32766$fb2.7362@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
>>>> "Vorlonagent" <jt@otfresno.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Warming.  Nor was the broadband Liberal denunciation of President Bush
>>>>> for
>>>>> not signing those Protocols limited to the Chicken Little crowd.  (A
>>>>> denuciation that ignored Bill Clinton's pocket veto of Kyoto.  If Kyoto
>>>>> was
>>>>> so vital, Bush should have never had the option of declining US
>>>>> participation)
>>>>
>>>> Actually it wasn't a pocket veto (technically there is no such thing
>>>> constiutionally). What happened is that there was a unanimous (93-0)
>>>> Sense of the Senate vote before submission, so Clinton did not even try.
>>>
>>> He still didn't sign the treaty which was my main point. <<
>>
>> You keep saying that, but it's not precise enough for my tastes. 
>>  Clinton -
>> well, the Clinton Administration, in the person of Al Gore - _did_ sign 
>> the
>> treaty.  Symbolically.  Because of the Senate's overwhelming disapproval 
>> in
>> their 'sense of senate' proclamation, Clinton did not put the treaty to 
>> them
>> for ratification.  The Accord has to be ratified by the Senate for us to
>> officially be a party to it.
>
>Very true.  I had that wrong.  I got independent correction on that point 
>talking to my brother after writing my post.  I thought that the Clinton 
>Admin had turned up its nose at Kyoto and I was wrong.
>
>It was the Senate that saved us from that treaty, not Clinton.

Flawed as it was, that treaty would have saved us money, because the
longer we delay, the more expensive the inevitable remedies. A coal
fired power plant, forex, is assumed to last for 50 years.
Decommission it before then, or convert it to non-polluting technology
if that proves possible, and you've upped the cost per kilowatt hour
significantly.

To put it in perspective, I read the other day that we're building or
planning more than 160 coal-fired plants, most using the old, more
polluting technology. I think it's safe to say that we won't be
running any of them in their original form for their fifty-year
lifespan. We won't be able to. Those who think that we can continue
pouring greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, and allow 2 billion
Indians and Chinese to join us, are seriously deluding themselves.

-- 
Josh

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