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Ärende: Re: OT: a proposal for increasing teachers' salaries
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Wendy of NJ wrote:
> On Sun, 6 May 2007 11:40:53 -0500, "Carl" <cengman7@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Amy Guskin wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 6 May 2007 00:15:00 -0400, Carl wrote
>>> (in article <3cCdnSzHU73ey6DbnZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com>):
>>>>
>>>> "Josh Hill" <usereplyto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:lqkq33d01agchqc7hup08ssg6ujtm4c39c@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 5 May 2007 21:53:45 -0500, "Carl" <cengman7@hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------
>>>>> I think there would be plenty of art if the government stayed out
>>>>> of it. ------
>>>>
>>>> But not plenty of "serious" art. At one time, that was subsidized
>>>> by the aristocracy. Now that the aristocracy has faded, there's
>>>> plenty of financial support for art with mass appeal, but
>>>> relatively little for
>>>> art of the more elevating kind.
>>>>
>>>> Don't get me wrong -- I'm all in favor of Tom Clancy and J. K.
>>>> Rowling. But I wouldn't want to do without Seamus Heaney and Don
>>>> Giovanni.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> We're much more likely to fund the next 5000 versions of Britney
>>>> Spears. <<
>>>
>>> No, we're _not_.  That's not the kind of art that gets subsidized,
>>> except by the buying public.
>>
>> Okay... I'll bite.  Who gets to define what art is?  WHo gets to
>> decide
>> who a worthy artist is?
>>
>>> The point is, that is the nearly the
>>> ONLY kind of music you'll get without funding/grants/subsidies.
>>> Most of Handel's works were paid for by patrons -- how would you
>>> feel if we didn't have those works because those patrons thought
>>> that he ought to just have his day job, and that if he wanted to
>>> create art he should just do it in his spare time?
>>
>> Please note that a patron was not always a monarch and did not
>> always imply government money, nor were Handel's works the result of
>> a blanket government program for all artists.
>>
>> There are galleries with shows of from new painters, photographers,
>> etc.  I don't think that new musicals on broadway are government
>> subsidized.   It is my undersatnding that this area has more theater
>> seats than NYC does.
>>
>> Also note that on PBS you are quite likely to see a tag indicating
>> something like "This show brought to in part by..." which would seem
>> to show that people and companies are willing to support shows
>> directly other than basic sitcoms, etc.  A number of shows on cable
>> channels THC, TLC, DSC, etc., are also supported in this way.
>
> Excuse me, but the companies who donate their money to PBS do it
> because they get a TAX BREAK.
>
> the foundations exist to protect that money from the government (it's
> a tax shelter).

Exactly!  So do more of that.

It's better to convince someone to donate voluntarily than it is to seize
money from everyone by force.
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