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Skriven 2006-06-03 16:28:00 av Robert E Starr JR (1905.babylon5)
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>> On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 23:53:59 -0400, Josh Hill wrote
(in article <oh02829rgmksrvgij1qc8nav81et3b6lb5@4ax.com>):

> On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:32:39 +0000 (UTC), Amy Guskin
> <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote:
> 
>>>> On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:38:50 -0400, Carl wrote
>> (in article <bO2dnQ0xUZJHcOPZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>):
>> 
>>> 
>>> "Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message 
>>> news:0001HW.C0A45DB200846684F0407530@news.verizon.net...
>>>>>> On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:55:35 -0400, Kurt Ullman wrote
>>>> (in article <kurtullman-768D19.07550501062006@news.west.earthlink.net>):
>>>> 
>>>>> In article <4e7bunF1ddm8nU1@individual.net>,
>>>>> Rob Perkins <rperkins@usa.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I could emit less. I already emit far *far* fewer pollutants than the
>>>>>> average American anyway. I don't think you ought to dare suppose that
>>>>>> I'm not aware of things.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> The average American already emits FAR less than they did in the 50s
>>>>> and 60s of pretty much everything nasty. <<
>>>> 
>>>> Isn't that kind of like saying, "I beat my wife FAR less than I used to"?
>>>> 
>>>> Amy
>>> 
>>> I don't think that's fair.  Considering that even when we die we either 
>>> fill 
>>> a plot
>>> or become ashes, it's impossible not to cause some pollution. <<
>> 
>> Agreed that we can't reduce our impact to zero.
>> 
>>>> People criticize that we're not doing enough.  We can clearly do more
>>> but progress has been made and that should be acknowledged. <<
>> 
>> My point was that I don't think we're doing nearly enough.  It wasn't the 
>> most accurate comparison, but it encapsulated, at the  moment, what I felt. 
>>  
>> Again, I don't think we're doing nearly enough.
>> 
>> I don't have kids, we compost, don't put any chemicals on our lawn, 
>> recycle/reuse/redistribute, have an electric mower, support local 
>> sustainable 
>> agriculture, one of us doesn't drive to work and the other drives only 
>> about 
>> seven miles roundtrip daily, we don't own any SUVs or large cars, and do 
>> countless other things to 'help,' and I don't think _I'm_ doing enough.  
>> Most 
>> people aren't doing nearly that much, and are using much more in the way of 
>> resources.
> 
> What saddens me is that it would take so little. I mean, do we really
> need to drive 10 MPG Hummers? Why are 25% of American cars now SUV's?
> Have they really made an improvement in our lives?
> 
> It's not just that we aren't doing anything -- we're flaunting our
> excess.<<

Yeah.  Indeed.  And it's not just that we're driving 10 MPG Hummers - in this 
area at least, nine times out of ten that Hummer, or Escalade, or Canyonero, 
will only have ONE PASSENGER in it.

Amy
           
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