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Skriven 2007-05-21 18:52:31 av Carl (1213.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: OT: a proposal for increasing teachers' salaries
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lizardgirl wrote:
> On May 16, 2:12 pm, Josh Hill <userepl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 16 May 2007 08:56:17 -0700, lizardgirl <gab...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 15, 6:47 pm, "Carl" <cengm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> The factors by which one judges art are (as Amy and others have
>>>> pointed out) not completely subjective, and I don't consider
>>>> myself qualified to judge art other than as it conforms to my
>>>> personal taste.
>>
>>> sure, there are formal elements (color, composition, balance, line,
>>> form, etc) by which you can 'evaluate' individual works.  and these
>>> can be helpful in understanding the significance of a specific
>>> piece, as well as bodies of work by an artist or group of artists.
>>> doesn't take more then one semester of art appreciation to get the
>>> basics down (should you be so inclined.)
>>
>>> the notion that art needs to conforms to anything other then an
>>> individuals taste makes no sense to me.  does one need to understand
>>> wine making in order to enjoy a glass of wine? does knowing the
>>> process make it taste any better?  you may now understand why it
>>> tastes the way it taste, but does that alone make you want to drink
>>> it?  if it don't taste good to you, it don't taste good to you.
>>
>> It seems to me that there's a different kind of learning involved.
>> Someone discovered some years ago that when trained musicians listen
>> to music, they rely mostly on the left hemisphere, whereas untrained
>> listeners rely on the right one. The musicians are presumably
>> thinking notes and staffs and time signatures, while the listeners
>> are thinking the sounds without the symbolic representation and
>> theory. But they're still analyzing the same material, and that
>> appears to be an acquired skill -- to mention some extreme examples,
>> people can't even tell whether a note is higher than another if they
>> haven't been exposed to a given musical tradition, and I remember
>> reading about a tribe somewhere that wasn't able to understand
>> drawings with perspective, because their own art was two-dimensional
>> -- they'd never developed or been exposed to it.
>>
>> I know that my own appreciation of art has improved over the years,
>> as I've listened, watched, and read, and I know that others have had
>> the same experience. And what's curious is that as this happens,
>> people tend to discover and enjoy the /same/ works. Not always, but
>> at a much higher than average frequency. It could be the Beatles, or
>> it could be Picasso, or Shakespeare -- way more often than chance or
>> the random elements of taste would suggest, people end up
>> considering them extraordinary.
>
>
> right.  which is why federal/state funding of the arts is a good
> thing.  it exposes people to different ways of expressing/experiencing
> the world we live in, the things we believe.

Why not state funding?  Why does it have to be federal funding?


Carl

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