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Skriven 2007-05-25 09:20:23 av lizardgirl (1341.babylon5)
  Kommentar till text 14917 av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (1330.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: OT: a proposal for increasing teachers' salaries
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On May 24, 6:54 pm, "Carl" <cengm...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> >>So any American that goes overseas can be said to represent America
>
> > Yes, but not all of them in an official capacity.
>
> Not being difficult, I'm just curious...

see how you are :^)

>.......what official capacity does the CSO have?
>

amend that to quasi-official.  its perception.  we go to a foreign
land.  we dress nice, play nice, eat with forks,  use the potty all be
ourselves, makes the rest of us look good.

> But unfortunately these days the government doesn't accept ANY limit
> to their power.  They feel free to seize assets for anything they want.

let's assume we like being a republic.  which federal powers in your
estimation warrant nation asset re-allocation, taxes, fines,
penalties, seizers, whatever?

>
> I'm more forgiving of state spending...even when it's on something I
> disagree with than I am on federal spending.  A lot of federal programs
> reek of power grab.
>

you'll get little disagreement from me on federal power grabbing.
there's way to much money being laundered trhough capital hill.
but why is questionable (to you) state funding more forgiveable then
federal spending on the same?

> >>I'm not arguing against funding, only the rationale that it has to be
> >>federal funding.
> >>I don't believe the federal government can do a better
> >>job administeriung such funds, nor do I think that MN should pay for
> >>art in Florida, Floridians pay for art in Kansas, or Kansans pay for
> >>art in Idaho.
>
> > There is this misconception that art does not extend past the studio
> > or museum system.  Every time you do something as simple as buy a
> > magazine you encounter an artist or two in the form of photographers,
> > graphic artists, layout designers, art directors, etc.  everytime you
> > turn on the tv, actors, set designers, storyboarders, costumers,
> > makeup artists, writers, get dressed, on and on and on.  the need for
> > 'creative' types is ever present.   the need to provide a quality
> > education for artist makes as much economic sense as providing one for
> > doctors, lawyers, and economist.
>
> Doctors?  I think there is a greater demand for 10000 more doctors in the
> world
> than  there are for 10000 more makeup artists.  That's just my opinion.
>

i'm taking 'demand' to mean 'need' here.  we may need more doctors but
dollar for dollar i'm willing to bet that makeup artists contribute
just as much to the economy as a profession.

> > Personally I believe there is an over emphasis on math and science in
> > our school system.  I wouldn't however suggest cutting either
> > program.  My point being that not everyone can/wants to be an artist
> > or a scientist, a general education (which is what the school systems
> > tries to provide) should allow for both.
>
> Personally, I think K-12 should place a high emphasis on math and science.
> Math and science teach more than how the world works, they teach how to
> think.
> They are the foundation. Writing should also have a high emphasis.

in principle i don't disagree.  every year we get a break down of the
test results for the entire school district.  last year for math our
district scored in the 87 percentile at the elementary level (k-5),
dropped to the 72 percentile in middle school and dropped again in
high school to the 53 percentile.  this could mean a lot of things.
one of which is that by high school kids know enough about who they
are and what they want to be that math ain't all that important to
them.  i'm all for teaching kids how to think.  but once we've done
that shouldn't we allow them to opt out of a standatdized requirement
they disagree with?

>
> If one doesn't question everything, then you deserve it when the
> government spends your money in ways you don't like.  It's
> just as valid to question how well tax money is spent on education as it
> is asking how it's spent on defense.

absolutely.  yet the government will always spend money in a way that
i might not like.  the question becomes does the government know/
understand/have a right to spend on my behalf whether i like it our
not.   often i think the answer is yes so in order to serve the
greater good.

lg
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