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>> On Sat, 26 May 2007 00:12:47 -0400, Carl wrote
(in article <9eqdnfuZFJh7LsrbnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@comcast.com>):

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> "Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message=20
> news:0001HW.C27D227805AE911AF0182648@news.verizon.net...
>>>> On Fri, 25 May 2007 17:31:21 -0400, Carl wrote
>> (in article <CoidnRUlUZI0yMrbnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d@comcast.com>):
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>>>=20
>>> You could claim it is in the "Greater good" to take every penny Bill=20
>>> Gates
>>> has and divide it equally among the people in Portland.  Then you cou=
ld
>>> say that his body should be strung up and beaten in order to make tho=
se
>>> that hate him because he's wealthy feel better and improve the "natio=
nal
>>> psyche." <<
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>> Who hates him because he's wealthy?  I think most people hate him beca=
use=20
>> of
>> the crappy, inferior products he puts out.  Those "I'm a Mac/I'm a PC"
>> commercials say it all!
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> Hardly a reason to hate someone... <<

Do you know anyone who has Vista?  ;-)

>> and I do know people that almost
> spit at his name because of his wealth. <<

They have actually _said_ to you, "I hate Bill Gates _because he is so=20
rich_"?

>> --------------------
> Al Gore, on his questionable fund-raising meeting in a Buddhist temple:
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> "I didn't realize I was in a Buddhist temple."
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> [Yeah, Buddhist temples are so easily confused with...anything else]
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> The explanation by Gore, as recorded in FBI Notes as to why he could ha=
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> missed
> the fact that it was a fund-raiser (3/00):
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> "He drank a lot of iced tea during meetings, which could have necessita=
ted a=20
> restroom break."  <<

Carl, I couldn't find any legitimate source that asserts that Gore actual=
ly=20
said that (only lots of "Goreisms" and Gore quote sites).  What I'm findi=
ng=20
is that he said that he didn't realize that the event at the temple was a=
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fundraiser, which is a horse of a different color entirely.  The followin=
g=20
item might help you, so that you don't post silly misinformation which is=
 on=20
the level of "I hear your mother's pretty busy when the 7th Fleet  is in=20
port."

From www.algoresupportcenter.com:

>>The Buddhist Temple Incident

The oldest and grandest of the Gore pseudo-scandals is the Buddhist templ=
e=20
affair.=A0 On March 15, 1996, Vice President Gore had a 10-minute social =
visit=20
in the White House with Master Hsing Yun, the head of the Taiwan-based Fo=
=20
Kwang Shan Buddhist order.=A0=A0

The vice president has always insisted he did not consider the temple vis=
it a=20
fundraiser. No admission was charged for the luncheon, there were no=20
solicitations and no campaign money changed hands at the temple. However,=
 the=20
day after the event and unbeknownst to Gore, Democratic fundraisers Johnn=
y=20
Huang and Maria Hsia collected 42 temple-related checks totaling more tha=
n=20
$100,000, $62,000 of which was later deemed illegal.=A0

Most of the ensuing confusion about Gore's role centered around the simpl=
e=20
fact that Huang had scheduled two events on April 29, a formal Gore=20
fundraiser at Harbor Village Restaurant in Monterey Park, Calif., and the=
n a=20
civic visit at the temple in nearby Hacienda Heights. Crunched for time, =
the=20
fundraiser at the restaurant was canceled and Huang invited the attendees=
 to=20
the temple to meet Gore.=A0

The press has largely ignored that crucial scheduling detail, even though=
 it=20
was spelled out at both Sen. Fred Thompson's hearings on campaign finance=
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irregularities and at Hsia's subsequent trial, where she was found guilty=
 of=20
concealing the source of campaign donations.=A0

In a typically overheated, Page 1 account in the Philadelphia Inquirer on=
=20
March 4, Chris Mondics wrote, "One e-mail written by the vice president s=
hows=20
that at some point weeks before the [Hsi Lai] event, he knew he would be=20
attending a fundraiser in Southern California on April 29, 1996." See how=
 the=20
details are danced around? It's no surprise the vice president sent an e-=
mail=20
regarding a "Southern California" fundraiser on April 29, 1996, since one=
 was=20
scheduled; not at the temple, but at Harbor Village Restaurant. It was la=
ter=20
canceled. Either Mondics, who dug through "a body of documents" for the=20
story, didn't know the specifics of the case, or chose to fudge them. For=
=20
everyday Inquirer readers, the implication was clear: Gore lied. (Perhaps=
 the=20
most laughable evidence that "Gore had many reasons to believe the Buddhi=
st=20
temple lunch was a fundraiser" was offered up by Fortune's Jeffrey Birnba=
um:=20
"[Gore] was attending fundraisers often back then.")=A0

But hadn't Gore flip-flopped, and wasn't the press right to call him out?=
 As=20
New York Times columnist William Safire pointed out ominously, "At first =
Gore=20
said the fund-raiser was merely 'community outreach'; months later, he=20
amended that to knowing only it was 'finance-related.'" Ruth Marcus at th=
e=20
Washington Post was even more blunt: "Gore's shifting and technical respo=
nses=20
on this question -- he first said it was 'community outreach,' then=20
acknowledged that it was 'finance-related' or a 'donor maintenance' event=
 --=20
appear only to have added to his difficulties."=A0

Actually, the only difficulty was that reporters and columnists did not=20
understand that the two phrases "community outreach" and "finance-related=
"=20
were synonymous, and neither meant fundraiser. In televised hearings befo=
re=20
the Thompson Committee in 1997, Democratic National Committee chairman Do=
nald=20
Fowler and DNC finance director Richard Sullivan both testified under oat=
h=20
that "community outreach" and "finance-related" events were efforts to wa=
rm=20
up potential or past donors, a chance to greet and get to know supporters=
,=20
but not to solicit money. Seems like pretty basic stuff in the world of=20
political campaigns, which the D.C. press supposedly covers for a living.=
=A0

Yet three years later, pundits were still clueless. <<

Amy
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"In my line of work you gotta keep repeating things over and over and ove=
r=20
again for the truth to sink in, to kinda catapult the propaganda." - Geor=
ge=20
W. Bush, May 24, 2005
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