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Skriven 2007-05-27 11:08:36 av Josh Hill (1402.babylon5)
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Ärende: Re: OT: a proposal for increasing teachers' salaries
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 02:05:12 GMT, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <r2nh535a3llv8jefppkptasu1dmrmrq8j8@4ax.com>,
> Josh Hill <usereplyto@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 27 May 2007 00:51:12 GMT, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >   Find me a non-subjective definition. Find me exactly the point where 
>> >the desire to make money becomes avarice and where avarice graduates to 
>> >greed. Until then, greed is based on some arbitrary element. 
>> 
>> So is height, yet we speak of tall and short men, and do so with
>> validity.

>     We hate because of height?

So substitute "evil."

>> We've all known greedy and generous people. We may not always know or
>> agree on precisely how to describe someone, but that doesn't mean that
>> we can't or shouldn't judge.
>
>      Of course it means we SHOULDN'T, but it doesn't mean we don't 
>(myself included) and to do so is hardly a good thing or less bigoted. 

Why shouldn't we judge? Judgment is a necessary part of life. Bigotry
is just a form of /erroneous/ judgment. If I say "Jews are greedy,"
I'm being bigoted. If I say "Scrooge is greedy," I'm not.

>> >     Of course it is. Green is a color. It hatred based on some part of 
>> >the person.. his bank account or his skin color. Six of one...
>> 
>> Red is a color too, yet I don't think that hating someone with a red
>> house is morally equivalent to hating someone with (nominally) red
>> skin.

>        Unless, of course, he got that red skin from spending time at 
>his lavish estate in the Virgin Islands. 

Which he bought with the labor of the slaves he worked to death?

>> It's not that I'm in favor of unthinking hatred of the rich, BTW. I
>> don't think any of us who live in the wealthy countries of the world
>> can reasonably do that. People do have a certain responsibility for
>> their own well-being, and people deserve to be rewarded for risk and
>> hard work, and I believe that a system with incentives benefits
>> people. But I can't say I favor conspicuous consumption, and I
>> certainly understand those who feel resentful towards the rich even
>> when I don't think there's anything wrong with their wealth, as long
>> as that resentment is based on something significant and not just envy
>> of the guy who's doing better than you are.
>
>        But what else does it boil down in actuality. It is the guy is 
>TOO rich or is because someone else is too poor?

Why do you think there's a cutoff? In real life, it's a matter of
gradations.

-- 
Josh

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