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Skriven 2007-06-29 13:37:15 av Amy Guskin (2103.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: ATTN: JMS Comics related
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>> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:47:22 -0400, Jan wrote
(in article <f61rrq01mh1@drn.newsguy.com>):

> In article <0001HW.C2A9DE8300C51A5DF0182648@news.verizon.net>, Amy Guskin
> says...
>> 
>> Can I _please_ beg you all to watch the spoilers in this thread, which 
>> isn't 
>> marked for spoilers?  This is now the third or fourth time I've read that 
>> title and how concerned you all are about it.  Some of us don't follow 
>> comics 
>> news, and didn't have any idea there was some story out there with that 
>> title, and that we should probably take it as an ominous sign.  :-(    I've 
>> ignored it the last two or three times it's come up, but with it getting 
>> closer to release (I guess -- I don't know because I don't follow that 
>> news), 
>> I just want to remind people to at least leave spoiler space if you start 
>> talking about it, for those of us who might be behind in our reading!  
>> Thanks.
>> 
> 
> Thing is, unless your comic shop is as well trained as mine is, you pretty 
> well
> need to know that title in order to ask for the comics.  If I understand
> correctly it's going to span all of the Spidey titles just before Amazing
> Spider-Man becomes 3 times per month and the other titles are dropped. <<

Nope, I'm on a subscription there, and if something's happening in "Amazing" 
that's going to cross over to the others, they know to offer it to me (just 
like with "Civil War").  In fact, they'll probably just put all the relevant 
titles in my file for me, rather than alerting me about it.  I'd be _really_ 
surprised to find a comics shop where the staff aren't fans enough themselves 
not to know something like that.  I mean, no one works in a comics shop 
unless they're a comics _fan_.

>> Anyway...no offense but can titles actually be considered spoilers?  I don't
> recall that being so back when B5 was on.  Well, JMS tried to keep "Z'ha'dum"
> secret for obvious reasons but there were plenty of B5 titles at least as
> portentious as OMD is, imo. <<

Well, if someone had merely posted, "I'm still finishing up on Amazing 
Spider-Man, with 2 of the regular book and 2 of the "One More Day" mini to 
write, and then I'm off," as JMS himself did, no, that wouldn't be a spoiler. 
 But when someone posts, "Aside from that, knowing that the project you're 
doing with Joe Q is titled "One More Day"...all I can say is: I'm afraid, I'm 
very afraid. There are the darnedest rumors out there. Me, I just hope Aunt 
May will be okay," as _you_ did in follow-up to it, well, I felt a little 
spoiled by that.  Because according to your own quote, you _do_ read up on 
spoilers/news about comics, so you're saying something that has some 
pre-release, insider knowledge behind it, and you're not just blue-skying.  
I'm just asking you to look at it from the perspective of those who _don't_ 
get any advance information about their preferred art forms.  JMS's comment 
in and of itself didn't even register with me -- it was just a title.  But 
then it got all this importance put on it, complete with details, by you (and 
others).

I don't want this to deteriorate into some big argument, but I've seen 
similar comments about this "One More Day" mini a couple of times, and 
frankly, if people who _knew_ something hadn't posted (or had posted beneath 
spoiler space), I wouldn't know anything about it beyond the title, and I'm 
sure the impact of _whatever_ happens in it would have been a lot more 
dramatic for me.  If that's not pretty much the definition of 'spoiler,' I 
don't know what is.

And since we're coming up on new Babylon 5 material for the first time in a 
long time, I think getting back into the habit of being cognizant of when to 
warn about spoilers you're posting isn't a bad idea.

Amy
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