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Skriven 2007-06-30 14:33:20 av Carl (2153.babylon5)
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Ärende: Re: Way OT Query...
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"Matt Ion" <soundy106@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> Carl wrote:
>> I know this is waaay off topic, but over the months (gads...years?!) that 
>> I've been here I've heard quite a few very knowledgeable people speak of 
>> both conventional and web programming.  There seems to be a higher 
>> percentage of programming talent here than on most non-computer related 
>> groups.  I'll ask this here partially because if I ask the question on a 
>> programming group I'm likely to get into a thread that goes off into 
>> arguing programming minutiae or a religious discussion of programming 
>> languages.
>>
>> I was having a conversation with someone a few days ago about web 
>> developers.  It was suggested to me that it's much more difficult than 
>> one might expect to hire web developers for a permanent positions than 
>> other types of developers.  Apparently around here lead/experienced web 
>> devs are much more likely to want to be contractors these days than they 
>> are to want to stay at one company.  Is this true in other areas as well? 
>> Is this inherent in the type of person that gravitates towards this job 
>> or a reflection of the market?
>
> As someone who's dabbled in web dev as part of an on-again off-again IT 
> career, I'd say I think part of the reason for this phenomenon is that 
> office politics, especially in larger organizations, all too often comes 
> into play with this sort of thing.
>
> Things with IT - network changes, system upgrades, software rollouts, 
> etc. - are usually left to the IT department by others who "don't know 
> computers", things like adverising and marketing are usually left up to 
> the appropriate department, but with "new, hot, important" media like the 
> company website, where the two areas meet, is where everyone becomes an 
> expert and wants a say in things.
>
> Being a staffer puts the developer right in the middle of it; being a 
> contractor means you can just sit back and wait for the dust to settle and 
> then implement whatever changes you're handed.  And if you do get dragged 
> into the fray, you can bill by the hour for sitting there watching people 
> squabble.

Do the things that attract most web developers conflict with the idea
of managing web project(s)?  Often staffers take a longer view of
development because they have to maintain it.  I have known some
very professional contractors that do a wonderful job writing maintainable 
code,
 but they were the exception rather than the rule.  To be fair, I've known
some staffers that have a problem with that too, but they didn't last long.

When my company looks for someone to manage a group of web developers,
it seems like the candidates are primarily interested in adding a management
title on their resumes so that they could leave in a couple of years with a
higher market value.

There doesn't seem to be a shortage of web developers, but there does
seem to be a limited number of people able to lead a web team.  Is this
just a local issue?

Carl
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