Text 15840, 69 rader
Skriven 2007-07-10 15:27:44 av John W. Kennedy (2313.babylon5)
  Kommentar till text 15826 av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (2299.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Comic-Con Schedule Preview - B5 panel on Friday 7/27
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Amy Guskin wrote:
>>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 22:13:36 -0400, John W. Kennedy wrote
> (in article <jXBki.286$XB7.150@newsfe12.lga>):
> 
>> Amy Guskin wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 20:15:27 -0400, Jon wrote
>>> (in article <1184026527.709376.221500@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com>):
>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 4:37 pm, "jmsa...@aol.com" <jmsa...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>> Can I even *begin* to express how bad an idea this is...?
>>>>>
>>>>> jms
>>>> Be nice..or you're going to get cast as "Grumpy".   Or in reality..is
>>>> it "Bashful?"  ;)
>>>>
>>>> Now taking auditions for Snow White.  Female, 18-27, slim, fair
>>>> skinned, redheads preferred (though not exclusively, by any means!).<<
>>> Redhead??  Have you never read the story?  "Skin as white as snow, lips as 
>>> red as rubies," (or "blood" in some versions), "hair as black as ebony."
>>>
>>> Amy, fan of the _real_, non-Disney ending of this one
>> Actually, I just read what I believe to be the original Grimm text (real 
>> mother and red-hot iron shoes) <<
> 
> Yeah, that's the best part.
> 
>>> aloud 16 or 17 times in the last month, 
>> which specifically names only the eyes as black. <<
> 
> You read it aloud in German 16 or 17 times in the last month?  I wouldn't 
> think there'd be that much of an audience for it around these parts.

Not in German. I read it in English twice a day at the NJ Renaissance 
Kingdom, while a troupe mimed the action behind me. Since I was a little 
worried about Snow White's persecutor being her real mother, and the 
red-hot-shoes bit, and since our setting is Arthurian (in fact, I read 
it as Merlin) I introduced it as "a Saxon story -- and you know what 
/they're/ like -- just the way they told it before Sir Walter of Anaheim 
got his hands on it."

> I have a really good, authentic (or so it claims) translation that I like 
> (actually I have more than one, but it's the Zipes one that I like the best),

> but I haven't read it in (cough cough) years.  It's got the real mother and 
> the putting on red-hot shoes and making her dance until she's dead, but I 
> honestly don't remember what was said (if anything) about the hair.  

I've checked now, and the hair is black in my translation of the 1857 
edition, but not in the 1813-15 edition, at least as I have it in 
English. So now I suppose someone's got to look up the original German 
of both.

> Certainly, though, over time it's come to be an integral part of her 
> character.  Now, if Jon really insists on a redhead, they can do Rose Red 
> rather than Snow White.

Yes, as far as it goes, I quite agree with you.



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