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Skriven 2007-08-03 11:24:23 av Josh Hill (3183.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: Lost Tales: My Review (SPOILERS, obviously!)
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 00:42:00 -0700, Eric Gillespie
<epg@pretzelnet.org> wrote:

>Josh Hill <usereplyto@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:10:59 -0700, Eric Gillespie
>> <epg@pretzelnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>>I hope so; I agree with the previous poster that the docking bay
>>>looked terrible, but the lack of sets was even worse.  Those
>>>incredibly plain hallways!  They looked nothing like B5.  What's
>>>really odd is how bright they all were.  That can't be due to the lack
>>>of a real set, can it?
>>
>> The extras showed a real corridor set. Not sure if they used it in
>> every hallway scene, or just when the actors had to interact with
>> objects or cast shadows. I assume the brightness (which I didn't
>> notice, though I believe you) was an aesthetic decision, though if the
>> actors were themselves in shadow you might have trouble with light
>> spill from the green screen.
>
>If it was an aesthetic decision, it's one I strongly disagree
>with.  Now that my wife has gone to bed, I've pulled out the DVDs
>to capture some images for comparison.  Since we always see
>Lochley and Cassidy around security, I used the security scenes
>from "Revelations" and "In the Shadow of Z'ha'dum".  And now I
>know what was wrong with the new scenes on B5.  Just look:
>
>http://pretzelnet.org/tmp/TLT-plain/jack.png
>  - Jack getting his just desserts
>http://pretzelnet.org/tmp/TLT-plain/morden.png
>  - Morden being moved between cells
>http://pretzelnet.org/tmp/TLT-plain/talia.png
>  - Talia being taken from the security office to her quarters
>http://pretzelnet.org/tmp/TLT-plain/confrontation.png
>  - Talia and Morden meet
>http://pretzelnet.org/tmp/TLT-plain/TLT.png
>  - Lochley and Cassidy going to see Burke
>
>What's wrong with the new scenes isn't just--or even
>primarily--the light level.  In the old images, we have light,
>shadow, color, detail!  Each wall has its own distinct features.
>We have the characteristic grid shadows.  We even have lamps!
>Where the heck is the light coming from in the new scenes?  I
>couldn't put my finger on all this at first because I've always
>taken all these details for granted; I didn't think about them,
>they're just part of the B5 "look".

I just went back and looked at some scenes from the DVD again for the
first time (my DVD drive having miraculously come back to life after a
huge piece of white foam popped out) and the props and mattes are a
good deal more elaborate than I remembered them. Which reopens the
question of why, other than relative paucity of actors, I had the
feeling I was watching summer stock and that we weren't really seeing
the station, despite the exteriors. Those side-by-side photos of yours
put it in perspective. They're less elaborate and dramatic, sure, but
mostly they just don't /look/ like the corridors we remember, if only
subconsciously. The only thing that binds the new and old B5 are the
shots of the exterior.

>I can't wait for the crew to have a chance to work with a larger
>budget and improve all this for the next DVD :).
>
>http://pretzelnet.org/tmp/TLT-plain/welch.png
>  - And, hey, look at Lou Welch!
>
>Who doesn't miss him?  When do we get to see the Lost Tale
>featuring Corwin, Welch, and maybe even Senator Hidoshi?
>
>(Yes, I'm a nerd.  So what?)

Oh, I think maybe around episode 310 . . .

-- 
Josh

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