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Text 17397, 87 rader
Skriven 2007-08-18 23:25:31 av John W. Kennedy (3874.babylon5)
  Kommentar till text 17367 av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (3844.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: LONG LIVE BABYLON 5.
================================
more Crusade wrote:
> On 18 Aug, 02:27, "John W. Kennedy" <jwke...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> more Crusade wrote:
>>> S:AaB is well written with strong character based stories,
>> "Character-based stories"? Every single principal in the series was a
>> whiny teenager!
>=20
> John I disagree strongly but each to his own.
>=20
>>> some fun space battles
>> Done by people who literally couldn't figure out that an isosceles
>> triangle with a sixty-degree vertex is equilateral.
>>
>> --
>=20
> Considering it features some of the most impressive dog fighting
> scenes in a TV sci-fi show (excluding from a scientific point of view)
> I really don't see your problem with the show.

They show spaceships flying like airplanes, banking to turn.

They show spaceships with all thrusters way off-center, which somehow=20
fail to spin, as they should, in useless pinwheels.

They show Phobos and Deimos with large visible disks from the Martian=20
surface.

They show Jupiter as subtending an angle of at least 45 degrees from one=20
of its own Trojan points.

They have aliens who want to conquer Earth for territorial reasons, even=20
though exposure to Earth's most common chemical is instant death to them.

They show pilot officers being regularly employed as infantry grunts.

They completely ignore the theory of relativity, not even bothering to=20
handwave it away.

> I take it you really don't like any other space set shows beside
> Babylon 5 given your opinions of unnatural physics, extra-terrestrial
> biology etc in Space Above and Beyond?

There are many different shows with many different qualities. S:AAB,=20
however, simply showed contempt for science, contempt for military=20
discipline (and common sense), contempt for adult behavior, and contempt=20
for logic. By all appearances, they just didn't give a good goddamn.

And if you think my opinion of S:AAB is bad, you should have seen that=20
of the late, lamented "Gharlane of Eddore".

> Just out of curiosity I would also love to know what you think of as
> better written character-based sci-fi (in particular space set sci-fi
> but not limited to), obviously besides Babylon 5, and made before
> Farscape? Of course if it is Space set it has to have realistic space
> sequences and of course I'm sure it will have realistic extra-
> terrestrial biology etc etc has per Neil coward 's comment(forgive me
> if I've got the name wrong).

No=EBl Coward. Author of "Private Lives", "Design for Living",=20
"Cavalcade", "Blythe Spirit", "In Which We Serve", author and composer=20
of "Bitter Sweet", 'Mad Dogs and Englishmen', 'A Bar on the Piccola=20
Marina', and the first headline entertainer to work Las Vegas.

"Bless me, what /do/ they teach them in these schools?"

Mais, mon ami, revenons =E0 nos moutons.

Assuming that we are to exclude "Science-Fiction Theater", "The Twilight=20
Zone" and "The Outer Limits", there was "Men Into Space", and the=20
original "Star Trek". Some say there was a lot to be said for the first=20
season of "Johnny Jupiter", but I saw only a few episodes of the second=20
season, and I was about six at the time, so I can't speak to that. I=20
also saw only a few episodes, at about the same age, of "Space Patrol",=20
but what I remember seems to have been decently character-based. Then,=20
of course, there's always "Captain Power and the Soldiers of the=20
Future"; its science was at about the comicbook level, but at least it=20
wasn't flat-out wrong as often as S:AAB was.

--=20
John W. Kennedy
"The bright critics assembled in this volume will doubtless show, in=20
their sophisticated and ingenious new ways, that, just as /Pooh/ is=20
suffused with humanism, our humanism itself, at this late date, has=20
become full of /Pooh./"
   -- Frederick Crews.  "Postmodern Pooh", Preface
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