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Skriven 2006-05-24 14:45:00 av Robert E Starr JR (646.babylon5)
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"Vorlonagent" <jt@otfresno.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C087A14C0582652FF0407530@news.verizon.net...
> >>>On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:18:08 -0400, Vorlonagent wrote
> > (in article <Hrb8g.24557$4L1.16660@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>):
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> And for uttering these words, Churchill became a popular speaker at
> >> Leftist
> >> venues, gaining a larger vanue for his hate-speech.
> >>
> >> Tell me, did Air America distance themselves from Churchill, condemn
him,
> >> apologize for him or embrace him? <<
> >
> > Er, sorry, but I don't know _anyone_ who considers themselves left of
> > center
> > who had anything positive to say about Churchill's essay.
>
> I'm glad to hear it.
>
>
> > As for Air America's position, I don't recall any specifics about that -
I
> > had no special interest in that news item over any others that would
cause
> > me
> > to remember exactly what they were saying - but I assure you that if
they
> > were out there drumming up support for Churchill, I'd certainly remember
> > that.
>
> Even at my most cynical, I wouldn't expect out-and-out support of his
> comments.  Few people would be that impolitic.  Churchill can afford to be
> because he's tenured (and fast-tracked to tenure IIRC).  From AAR, I would
> expect the possibility of passive aid which retained deniability of his
> words.  Examples would be some dissembling in the form of a weak rebuke to
> his essay or taking air time to point out Churchill's obvious free speech
> rights, object to charges that he plagiarized a painting or lied about his
> American Indian heritage to get his professorship or counterattacking
> Churchill's critics.


Well, here's one:
    http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0214-20.htm

>
> >From universities that invited Churchill to speak, I would expect the
> standard boilerplate defense about the desirability of exposing students
to
> different points of view, never mind the criticisms of US business that
> underlie Churchill's comments are standard-issue Leftist stuff and there
are
> many people better qualified than Churchill to make them in a
sunstantiated
> fashion.  Personally, I see no greater good in exposing students to
> hate-speech, which would be one's primary reason for booking Ward
Churchill
> specifically, yet he had a full dance card.
>

Unless, of course, the person would be "divisive" (see the uproar over Condi
Rice speaking and getting an honorary doctorate)

>
> -- 
> John Trauger,
> Vorlonagent
>
>
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Dennis
                                                                               
                   
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