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Skriven 2006-06-07 23:26:00 av Robert E Starr JR (2519.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Atheists: America's m
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 02:53:15 +0000 (UTC), "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
<ala_dir_diver@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>"Josh Hill" <usereplyto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:fusb825frqjskbhv3f6m75dh82ncq1bnon@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 02:16:14 +0000 (UTC), "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
>> <ala_dir_diver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >"Josh Hill" <usereplyto@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >news:3j69829cngfqnnnhgesc1tfjffd7cn372h@4ax.com...
>> >> On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 19:41:28 +0000 (UTC), "Dennis \(Icarus\)"
>> >> <ala_dir_diver@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Well, the environmentalists would be pleased
>> >> >a) no more oil out of the mid-east
>> >>
>> >> This is bad? You like giving money to Osama, Saddam, and Iran? Sending
>> >> troops to take back Kuwait or protect the oil fields?
>> >
>> >So what would you have done to drive Saddam out of Kuwait?
>>
>> Would he have invaded Kuwait in the first place if it hadn't been for
>> the oil?
>
>Yeah, I think so. We get much oil from, say, Somalia?

?

Afraid I don't follow you here. Saddam wanted to get his hands on
Kuwaiti oil. Now he might have invaded had the Kuwaitis not had oil,
and it's even possible that the world would have done the right thing
and responded, though I wouldn't hold my breath. But then again, had
it just been an impoverished stretch of sand, Saddam might not have
thought it worth his while. And we certainly wouldn't have sent troops
to Saudi Arabia to guard their oil fields -- a major beef of Osama's,
since it violated a tenet of Islam -- or been required to spend nearly
as much to maintain the military resources we still have in that area.

Remember when Kissinger threatened war if the oil embargo threatened
the economic survival of the west? Our defense of oil shipments in the
Straits of Hormuz? How about our ultimately costly installation of the
Shah of Iran after his elected predecessor tried to nationalize the
oil fields? Would we have had to invade Iran a second time (well, OK,
"had' is too strong a word) had Saddam not been able to circumvent the
UN embargo by corrupting the oil for food program, or would he have
been overthrown?

For that matter, how would Saddam have built his army in the first
place if it hadn't been for oil revenue? Would he even have remained
in power if he hadn't been able to buy lunch for his people? Would
Iran have the money to develop nuclear weapons? Would it now be
sending aid to Hamas and funding terrorists? Would we have to send
military aid to Israel to counter those terrorists and oil-financed
weapons purchases?

-- 
Josh

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