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Skriven 2006-07-05 23:18:00 av Robert E Starr JR (3906.babylon5)
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Josh Hill wrote:

> On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:42:02 -0700, Charlie Edmondson
> <edmondson@ieee.org> wrote:
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>>Josh Hill wrote:
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>>>
>>>Are you prepared to do without most of the military, the police, and
>>>most of the nation's schools? The answer to corruption in government
>>>is better government.
>>>
>>
>>Well, let's see...
>>
>>Military - plenty of money there, without adding in the estate tax. Done 
>> mostly at the federal level (except for national guard) so no big problem.
> 
> 
> Huh? Why do you say plenty of money? We're running a huge deficit, and
> Bush has refused to pay for the war in Iraq. We're borrowing the money
> to pay for the military.
> 
> 
>>Police - Not federally funded, except for 'mandates' and 
>>'redistributions' used to buy votes/influence.  Could well do without 
>>all the federal meddling there.
> 
> 
> Funded by taxes.
> 
> 
>>Schools - Should be done at the local level, and would be better so. 
>>Instead, lots of meddling, mandates, 'standards' that are more about 
>>controlling the votes of the teacher's unions than about actually 
>>teaching kids.  If I could kick the feds out, would be putting on my 
>>boots right now... 8-)
> 
> 
> Well, you could begin by repealing the spectacularly ineffectual No
> School Left Unpunished Act, which has been a failure and left the
> states strapped for cash when Bush failed to provide the funding he
> promised to pay for his mandates.
> 
> Anyway, once again, funded by taxes. And I've noticed that middle
> class districts get a lot more money per student than poor ones. Which
> kinda makes me wonder why the middle class districts are spending so
> much money. Sarcasm mode on: since we're clearly wasting money on
> schools and expenditure per pupil has nothing to do with success, we
> should take money away from wealthy suburban school districts until
> they're holding classes in janitorial closets like poor urban ones.
> 

Oh, you, the wealthy scion of private schools, are now an expert on 
public schools, esp. in poor, urban districts?  I am pretty sure that 
you are not a teacher, either.

Like in California, where the state government decided it would be 
'fairer' for the state to gather in all the property taxes, and then 
share them back out to the school districts.  All so that they could be 
fairer with it, since those poor, urban districts get so little...

And then, well, they have all these administrators and state school 
inspectors, and other flunkies who must now be paid to be 'sure' that 
these funds are propertly distributed.  (and for some reason, all these 
positions are in the teacher's union, many of them held by officers in 
the union...)  And, we do have to pay them.

Then, well, we need to have standards for these schools.  Some of them 
are not teaching the correct 'stuff', and have nonsense like music and 
art classes, or allow outside groups to use school property off hours 
and thes groups include some with religous affiliations (Horrors!) and 
other non-right-thinking groups.  The state then has to mandate HOW that 
money should be spent, and have more adminstrators to determine those 
standards, and enforce them.  So, we have to pay them as well.

So, why are the poor urban districts still too bad?  Could it have 
anything to do with the people who live there?  Or the environment 
outside the school, with drugs, gangs, and other influences?  Of course 
not!  Or that many teachers don't like working where there are serious 
health threats from the student body, so you have to offer more money, 
so you get some teachers more interested in money than teaching...

Josh, government is best local.  Yes, there will be abuses, but they 
will be a lot smaller and localized than the abuses you get when you 
consolidate it in state and federal hands.

Charlie
                                                     
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