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Skriven 2006-07-18 11:32:00 av Robert E Starr JR (4700.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: I'm Gone
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Okay let's try this again I seem to be having newsreader issues so if 
this gets posted multiple times my apologies:

Joe,

I for  one will be saddened if you leave this group. I, as do most of us 
here, look forward to the tidbits of information that you post on a 
semi-regular basis. I understand your reasons and agree that this 
induhvidual is a PITA here. Getting you to leave the group and stop 
posting is IMO giving him exactly what he wants. So in essense by your 
leaving he wins. But there are alternatives to leaving. 

I'm not sure what newsreader you use to read and post in the group, but 
most have an option to killfile a particular poster so his  posts never 
show up in the message threads. Granted this does nothing about those 
who respond and feed the troll (which is what they live for), but it is 
better than leaving IMO. The news reader I use (super gravity) also has 
rules so I can filter messages based on content so if a particular 
phrase in the header or body is consistant it too can be killfiled.

I would be happy to help you set this up should you chose to stay or 
return. 

Or you could post a blog with no comments section to distribute the same 
information.

The decision is of course your's, but if you do read this please 
reconsider.

Craig


In article <1153210943.173201.327510@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, 
jmsatb5@aol.com says...
> Readers of this newsgroup have noted, and asked about, the reason why
> my postings here have been on the steady decline for some months now.
> 
> The reason is that I have been reading, and thus replying, less than
> before, because it seems that nearly every thread have a posting by an
> individual who has dedicated himself to the task of insulting me on a
> constant basis, on a personal and professional basis.  This nearly
> pathological obsession has manifested itself as, for lack of a better
> term, the death of a thousand papercuts.  Each post is, on its own, as
> irrelevant and unimportant as he is, but in the aggregate becomes a
> constant note of insult.  He remains in this group not to participate
> in the discussion, but to find some way to work an insult or derogatory
> comment about me at every possible opportunity.  He is, for lack of a
> better term, going out of his way to shit on me in a place where he
> knows I have to read it...because that is his goal, to insult me where
> he knows that I hang out...because he's too much of a coward to do it
> to my face.
> 
> I'm not talking about critical opinions of a show, or disagreements,
> I'm talking about bald-faced insults, affronts, digs and offense on a
> personal and professional nature that have no business here.
> 
> I have discussed this previously with the moderators, who say they are
> powerless to keep him out, that he has made it clear to them that he
> does not and will not respect the will of either the moderators or the
> members of this newsgroup, who he views with utter contempt, as
> evidenced in the many messages in which he has described the members of
> this group as "joe worshippers" and terms too vile for me to repeat.
> He has stated to the moderators that if he is forced to leave, that he
> will simply join again under a different ISP or a different name, that
> the group must and will be held hostage to his conviction that the
> moderators have no authority over him, that he can ignore the purpose
> of this group, which is in part to provide a buffer zone between me and
> net-stalkers, and that his right to be here outweighs the right of the
> group or anyone in that group to keep him out, myself included.
> 
> A writer has only three resources: time, energy and visceral material,
> and when those are being spent being pissed off, when every message
> thread you'd otherwise like to participate in gets hijacked and
> polluted by a dozen new insults, snide asides or affronts, you just
> stop reading because life's too short.
> 
> Since the moderators cannot remove this individual due to his threats
> to remain no matter their actions, or the intentions or guidelines of
> this group, it seems that I therefore have no choice but to absent
> myself from this group.  It is for this reason that I have already
> mainly stopped reading and posting, and the members of this group, who
> have participated in good faith for so long, deserve an explanation.
> 
> With luck, my departure will remove this individual's reason for being
                                          
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