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Skriven 2006-08-05 11:26:00 av Robert E Starr JR (6200.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Questioning "Beauty i
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"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> wrote in message 
news:bp-dnRwo_fcNXU7ZRVnyvg@bt.com...
> Vorlonagent wrote:
>> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> wrote in message 
>> news:PYydnZPczcOXVE_ZRVnygQ@bt.com...
>>>>> Rather than the trigger for telepathic enhancement being the discovery
>>>>> of space flight it could simply be that only about 1,000 years ago 
>>>>> when
>>>>> the Vorlons perfected the genetic modifications needed to implant
>>>>> telepathy in aliens.  Telekinesis was only debugged very recently.
>>>>> The Vorlons sent out a single ship to perform the implantation.
>>>>      Is this something in the canon that I missed (VERy possible) or an 
>>>> assumption you are making??
>>>>
>>> There may have been 2 ships.
>>> See the first telepath novel "Dark Genesis" by Keys and the magazine
>>> story "The Nautilus Coil".
>>>
>>> Lyta is the only fully stable telekinetic.
>>
>> Could you define "fully stable"?
>>
>
> Able to walk and talk like a normal human being (or teep).
>
>> PsiCorps has a fair number of telekinetics in its ranks.  They're common 
>> enough to be called "teeks" matching "teeps" for telepaths.
>
> Peter the telekinetic that turns up on Babylon 5 in "Secrets
> of the Soul" speaks with a stutter suggesting problems inside
> his head, is slow to understand and the other telepaths talk
> to him as if he was a young child.  The telekinetic in the
> book "Dark Genesis" cannot even speak.

I don't consider books to be worth much for continuity purposes.  At best, 
they follow continuity, not generate it.  Normally, they ignore it and/or 
screw it up.

There is also the case of Talia Winters, who was given TK abilities by 
Ironheart (presumably) without any genetic alterations.  Thought her mind 
was already messed up by Psi Corps, getting TK didn't change her.  Becomeing 
a brain in a jar, THAT was a change...

Our only other mutually-agreeable example is someone who could easily have 
psychological issues unrelated to his ability.  I don't remember anything 
either way that said teeks were somewhat unstable.  You or I would have to 
hunt down the Lyta reference.


> Telekinetics exist but the rest of their minds do not work
> properly.  That looks like a bug in the design or manufacturing
> process.  Add in Lyta's comment that the Shadows came back too
> soon and we have a reason - the weapon was needed in combat so
> the Vorlons aborted the "sea trials".

I don't see the Vorlons doing any genetic tinkering on a contining basis. 
Nor do I see them giving humans anything more or less than what their plan 
called for.  They gave humans telepathy and that was the end of it.  It 
seems more likely that opening up telepathy in humans opened up other psi 
talents (such as TK) as a side-effect.  If teeks are unstable, it's more 
likey due to the fact that they'r expressing an unintended psi ability. 
They're an unintended side-effect and so don't function perfectly.

Besides ,TK powerful enough to be effective against Shadows, i.e. 
Ironheart-grade TK, dangerously advances humans too soon.  Nor would it be 
needed to fight the Shadows in any event.  Telepathic monkeying with Shadow 
ships seems to me what the younger races were intended to do.


-- 
John Trauger,
Vorlonagent


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