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Skriven 2006-08-28 17:07:00 av Robert E Starr JR (7703.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: My presidential pick
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* * * This message was from Angelika Tobisch to rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.m * * *
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Vorlonagent schrieb:

>>> I don't think you suddenly become enemies of the US for this switchover. 
>>> That would be overstating the case.  But cataloging the perceived sins of 
>>> the US becomes a popular game when it's a Republican.  I don't know what 
>>> else you'd call it than "anti-american".
>>>
>>> Care to make a suggestion?
>>
>> Quite a few actually, depending on who's talking. How's Anti-Bush,
>> anti-Republican, anti-war, for starters? All of those are far from being
>> anti-US though. Seeing that people in the US are accused of "not
>> supporting the troops" when all they're doing is question the war, I
>> probably shouldn't be surprised. The world isn't all black and white,
>> you know.
> 
> I can undertand "anti-Bush" somewhat.  Bush distinguished himself for rancor 
> from the very beginning.  Europe naturally wanted Gore in the White House so 
> 2000 election rancor (which has proven to be particularly virulent) would 
> naturally leak across the Atlantic.  So Europe would be primed to believe 
> that "Bush stole" the 200 election and therefore be primed to be partularly 
> hostile.  and that's before we get to 9/11.
> 
> "Anti-Republican" is prejudice, plain and simple.  If you're okay with that, 
> I am too.  I'd rather we be honest with each other and deal with each other 
> on that basis.
> 
> Where was "anti-war" when Bill Clinton's US was bombing Bellgrade repeatedly 
> for over a month.  Clinton had no UN resolution authorising his action. 
> Hell, where was Europe's "anti-war" when Serbia was coining the term "ethnic 
> cleasnsing"?

Note that I wasn't actually assigning any values there. You were asking
for labels beside anti-American, and I made a few suggestions. They're
all based on arguments you might hear and while you might not agree with
some or all of them, none are anti-American.

> There is a difference between questioning any government action (especially 
> a war) and attempting to undermine it.  I don't believe the Left in the US 
> recognizes any difference, which does not support the troops.
> 
> This goes all the way back to demonstrations before the invasion that 
> stopped traffic in large cities.  Opposition was fanatical to the point of 
> insensetivity to the movement of, for example, emergency vehicles.  It would 
> be interesting, if slightly morbid, to figure out if anybody died or 
> sufferred permanent injury as a result of needing emergency treatment while 
> leftists were blocking the roads.  Such narrow, focused hostility as was 
> demonstrated by anti-war protests would not recognize any line between 
> questioning the war and opposing it, impeding it, and working by any means 
> necessary to make it impossible to wage, which has the direct result of 
> soldiers dying in the field.

What you call "narrow, focused hostility", I call democracy at its best.
I wish more people would get off their a..es more often. I don't know
about the US, but the police here know how to deal with this kind of
stuff. I'd be willing to bet good money that a lot more people needing
emergency treatment have died because of traffic jams and budget cuts
than demonstrations.

>> Babylon 5 is US. Star Trek is US. JMS, Martin Luther King, Jr., the Red
>> Hot Chili Peppers, New Line Cinema (and therefore the LOTR movies), Neil
>> and Louis Armstrong, Meryl Streep, the Grand Canyon, Blizzard
>> Entertainment, Gavin Newsom, the space shuttles, Tom Sawyer, Carl Sagan,
>> the X-Men all are US and don't stop being so whenever someone in the
>> White House makes questionable decisions.
>>
>> No, I'm not anti-US. Actually, I'm not anti-any-country. I'm
>> anti-certain-people, anti-certain-ideologies, anti-coconuts and all
>> kinds of things, but not anti-any-country.
> 
> Republicans are the US too.  So's President Bush.

So? Are you even trying to get my point? I can dislike some things
American without being anti-American. I may not be above putting people
in boxes, but I at least try to have a lot more than two.

Angelika
                                                                               
    
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