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Skriven 2006-09-06 20:07:00 av Robert E Starr JR (8233.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: New B5 novels
=========================
* * * This message was from Mac Breck to rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.m * * *
         * * * and has been forwarded to you by Lord Time * * *         
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@REPLY:
<1157510842.739411.251270@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com><0001HW.C12498C0034A2914F0407530@news.verizon.net><vnHLg.4547$%75

"Laura Appelbaum" <l-appelbaum@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:vnHLg.4547$%75.2497@trnddc05...
> "Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C12498C0034A2914F0407530@news.verizon.net...
> >>>On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 22:47:22 -0400, harry.michaels wrote
> > (in article
<1157510842.739411.251270@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>):
> >>
> > I don't think an actor has any special insight into what the
universe's
> > creator and writer had planned/plans to do with that character.
Please
> > note,
> > this is not me selling short any of the talented performers who
brought
> > these
> > characters to life: I just think that it's a mistake to credit
someone for
> > something they haven't done.
>
> You know what else occurs to me is that in a way, this is a
(potentially)
> very serious breach of the kind of relationship you would expect/hope
anyone
> who played  a role in B5 and ever wanted to have anything to do with
> anything B5 in the future would have/want to have with jms.  It's like
the
> "contract" we all have in participating here not to pitch story ideas
while
> we're here.  Sure, some of us (well, me anyway <G>) have written B5
stuff
> and let it be known to other fans where it can be read, but we've
taken
> pains not to discuss the contents of it in anyway here on the
off-chance it
> might queer something jms already had planned/may plan in the future
for the
> characters we know and love.  When they're actively engaged in
*acting* in
> B5 and thus are *working with* jms, it's a completely legitimate and
> probably desirable thing for an actor to pitch an idea for their
character
> to him to see if he likes it, as Bill Mumy was famously said to have
> suggested that Lennier was in love with Delenn.  That keeps everyone's
real
> life roles in place -- you are the actor and you are making
suggestions
> about how you would like to portray your character to give him or her
more
> fullness, and the writer/producer or even director agrees or disagrees
with
> the idea and lets you add it in or scripts something specifically to
meet
> your request.  That's cool.
>
> But when you start writing your own stories and *publishing them*
against
> jms' specific wishes, you are also then constraining his ability to do
> anything with your character that you write about.  *Especially* if
you are
> a former B5 actor and thus persons such as the original poster begin
to
> think there is something authorized or particularly informed about
your fan
> fic because of your relationship to the show.  How can jms ever write
> anything now about Susan Ivanova's future as a Warlock class ship
Captain
> without having to *pay Claudia Christian* for the right to do it in
order to
> avoid her being able to turn around some day and sue *him* for
copyright
> infringement of "her" ideas?

Perhaps there's something in the contracts giving Warner Brothers and by
extension JMS rights to use or not use, as he sees fit, anything from
the new novels?  That'd give JMS creative freedom and immunity from
being sued for use of any ideas they come up with.


> She's as good as permanently "killed" Ivanova
> for any future episodes, movies, series, *authorized* books,
*authorized*
> comics, etc.
>
> You know, you couple this with her much earlier breech with the
series,
> *and* the fact that she at best "misinterpreted" and at worst,
out-right
> lied about what transpired in the conversations between her and jms
and I
> can only conclude that Claudia Christian, while still wanting to
benefit
> financially off her connections with the show, is incredibly,
incredibly
> stupid.
>
> Ivanova is dead!  Chalk one "main human character" off of the list of
> "stories we'll be seeing on DVD."
>
> LMA


You make a lot of good points.  What's the phrase? "Don't honk off the
writer?"  Still, CC and Mongoose aren't the only ones being stupid here.
As Warner Brothers to that list for *allowing* it to happen.

-- 
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999)
Galen: "There is always hope, only because it's the one thing that no
one has figured out how to kill yet."
(Galen's obviously never met Warner Brothers, TNT-Atlanta or Sci-Fi.)

"Brimstone" (1998)
Angel: Oh, there's one more thing you should know. Your fate was never
determined until you killed Gilbert Jax. All in all, you've led a good
life, Ezekiel. Have faith. Your work's appreciated.
                                                                               
                                        
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