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Skriven 2006-09-08 22:16:00 av Robert E Starr JR (8400.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Is it just me ...
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* * * This message was from Amy Guskin to rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.m * * *
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@MSGID: <0001HW.C12721EB03E24F24F0407530@news.verizon.net>
@REPLY: <4501a094@news.cadence.com>
>> On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 12:55:52 -0400, Charlie Edmondson wrote
(in article <4501a094@news.cadence.com>):

> Carl wrote:
> 
>> "Bill" <beastmachinery@msn.com> wrote in message 
>> news:1157663790.545785.140210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> 
>>> or is this shades of ISN?
>>> 
>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14718803/?GT1=8506
>>> 
>>> Clinton officials protest ABC's 9/11 miniseries
>>> ABC stands by 'dramatization,' despite demands not to air it
>>> 
>>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I remember the outrage from the right over the biased movie on Reagan 
>> starring James Broland. A lot of people claimed censorship at attempts to 
>> stop it from being broadcast.  I also remember how many people defended 
>> Oliver Stone after his reported highly fictionalized account of Nixon. I 
>> thought that "Reagan" should have been shown on CBS at the time, so I think 
>> this should be too.
>> 
>> I also think that the inevitable biased fiction from Hollywood about Bush 
>> and Cheney in a few years that someone will make to retaliate should be 
>> shown.
>> 
>> I'm not sure if it's done mostly as a matter of political masterbation, to 
>> offend the other side, or to try to affect the long term legacy of 
>> whichever 
>> political figure is being "Dramatized."
>> 
>> Carl 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Well, over on tvguide.com, they have had some interviews with folks, and 
> the producers/writers think a lot of this is pride.  Folks don't want to 
> be reminded of the mistakes that they made (and, both admins had plenty 
> of them) and so are complaining "We weren't THAT stupid!" even when, in 
> hindsight, they were.  You just hate to be made to look bad. <<

Of course it's pride, and an unwillingness to look bad...on the part of those 
producers and writers.

Fact checkers have already noted several places where the film outright 
distorts the truth.  The _truth_, not _a_ partisan truth.

From the NY Times article yesterday:

>>In their letters, dated Tuesday, both Mr. Berger and Ms. Albright object to 
scenes in which they are shown adding obstacles to efforts to capture or kill 
Osama bin Laden. In particular, Ms. Albright said a scene in which she 
refuses to support a cruise missile strike against Mr. bin Laden without 
first alerting the Pakistani government was untrue. Ms. Albright (played by 
Shirley Douglas) also said the suggestion that she had alerted the Pakistani 
military to an imminent strike was ³false and defamatory.²

³Sept. 11 is not Œentertainment,¹ it is reality,² Ms. Albright wrote Mr. 
Iger. ³Before you air your broadcast, I trust you will ensure you have the 
facts right.²

Mr. Berger (played by Kevin Dunn) said a scene in which he is shown refusing 
to authorize a strike to kill Mr. bin Laden in Afghanistan ³flagrantly 
misrepresents my personal actions² and will serve ³only to grossly misinform 
the American people.²

Mr. Berger¹s character is also seen abruptly hanging up during a conversation 
with a C.I.A. officer at a critical moment of a military operation. In an 
interview yesterday with KRLA-AM in Los Angeles, Cyrus Nowrasteh, the 
mini-series¹ screenwriter and one of its producers, said that moment had been 
improvised.

³Sandy Berger did not slam down the phone,² Mr. Nowrasteh said. ³That is not 
in the report. That was not scripted. But you know when you¹re making a 
movie, a lot of things happen on set that are unscripted. Accidents occur, 
spontaneous reactions of actors performing a role take place. It¹s the job of 
the filmmaker to say, ŒYou know, maybe we can use that.¹ ²<<

Amy
                                                             
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