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Skriven 2006-09-12 22:19:00 av Robert E Starr JR (8788.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: ABC backs down on 9/1
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>> "Amy Guskin"  wrote

> Yeah, I had a feeling, as I was writing that, that you'd jump on it.  I
> thought though that it was clear that I meant that he wasn't trying to
> defraud anyone in the sense that no one is surprised that his material is
> slanted.  However, watching ABC, you don't expect to -- and shouldn't --  
> find
> that kind of slant.
>
> Would you be surprised to hear that I wouldn't want ABC to produce and air
> something like Fahrenheit 9/11, either?  It's not their _business_ to be
> partisan.
>
> Of COURSE these things have been coming from the left for years, AND from 
> the
> right.  It's when you air it on free, national television, and subtly (or 
> not
> so subtly) imply that it's a "true story" based on factual documents and 
> the
> historical record -- in short, when you air propaganda to the masses 
> without
> clearly labeling it as such -- that I take great exception.
>
> Amy

Thank you.  That's all I was looking for.  I'd still debate that Michael 
Moore wasn't defrauding anyone, but I can tell you're getting tired of this 
conversation, so I'll drop it.

If it makes you feel any better (not sure if you're watching it), so far 
tonight GWB isn't faring any better than the Clinton Administration.  Condi 
Rice wasn't portrayed nicely at all.  While I cannot vouch for it's 
accuracy, it's tone has not been about assigning individual blame.  There 
are folks in it who don't come out looking too well on the surface, but it 
still doesn't make them out to be bad guys or dunces.  In tonight's episode, 
Madeline Albright is resistant to retaliation after the USS Cole attack. 
She is concerned about the effect it will have on the Israeli / Palestinian 
peace talks.  I don't know if it's historically accurate, and maybe I'll 
research it, but the point I came away with is that these were legitimate 
concerns, and in a pre 9/11 world, (which this was) I may have agreed with 
them.  In that 20/20 hindsight, doesn't look so good.  In the whole series 
so far, I've only seen one player that came off looking like an absolute 
ass, and that was the US ambassador in Yemen (Bodine, I think her name was, 
played by Patricia Heaton).  One player who came out looking extremely good 
in the movie was the Commander of the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan.  I 
plan to read up on this guy and see if he is as good a guy as he was 
portrayed.  Richard Clarke and John O'Neil came out of it looking very good 
as well.  Neither Clinton nor GWB appear in the movie except in newscasts.

I think it's mostly about how we were all lulled to sleep in the years 
between the two WTC attacks.  We were a little too cocky after catching the 
perpetrators of the first attack, and we seriously underestimated UBL.  We 
paid a steep price for it.  For a very short period of time afterwards we 
were mostly united in purpose.  It didn't last.  We are back to 
finger-pointing and back-biting and ass-covering.  Note that I keep using 
the word "we", not "they".  It was not a Democratic failure.  It was not a 
Republican failure.  It was a failure for all of us

Another thing to consider, and maybe this credits all the critics of the 
movie.  I never had any desire to read the 9/11 commission report.  I can't 
imagine reading a report written by a congressional committee to be an 
enjoyable endeavor.  But after watching this, I may just wade through it.

Last year, HBO aired a series called Rome.  In case you're not familiar with 
it, it is a drama roughly based in history, but it is largely fiction.  I 
never had any interest in Roman history until I watched this work of mostly 
fiction.  Since watching it, I have been reading a little bit of  Roman 
history.  I am not by any stretch of the imagination a scholar of Roman 
history, but I know more now than I did.  Had it been a dry lesson from a 
professor, I doubt it would have sparked my interest.
              
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