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Skriven 2006-10-13 10:41:01 av Shabaz
Ärende: Re: Further B5:TLT update from jms
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From: "Shabaz" <shabaz.x@gmail.com>

Amy Guskin wrote:
> >>On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:41:29 -0400, Shabaz wrote
> (in article <1160710889.028519.83780@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
> >
> > Oh, all of those would have had colour grading done them to some
> > extent. The digital part just means that it would allow them way more
> > flexibility in the process, and possibly some more room to experiment a
> > bit. Which is what I wondering about. Also, since it's shot digitally,
> > the pipeline (which in the rule does involve colour grading, or colour
> > timing) is a bit different, and more likely to involve digital grading.
> >
> >
> > But again, saying that colour grading is a gimmick is a bit like saying
> > that shooting stuff with a camera is a gimmick because the folks at BSG
> > tend to shake around theirs at times. <<
>
> Okay, now that Matt's given me an analogy I can understand, and I've gone
> back and reviewed your initial comment about this, I've decided that my
> initial reply still stands.  You said initially:
>
> >>To make a bit of a tangential aside, about something I'm pretty sure
> I'm one of the few that cares about it; I'm personally kind of curious
> what will be done with the colour grading. I'm personally a fan of some
> of the more heavy handed grading, that can for instance be done with
> digital grading, and hope that they will also experiment a bit with
> that, possible since it is now easier to do with TLT being shot
> digitally. I think it can really help to bring out mood and atmosphere,
> and I love some things that have been done in more recent television.<<
>
> So, while color grading itself is just a tool -- which can be used well or
> badly -- it sounds to me like you _are_ hoping for them to explore some of
> the more gimmicky uses of color grading, which is what I (and at least Chris)
> objected to.
>
> I think that if TLT does that, the first thing out of people's mouthes when
> they see the show is, "Oh, look, they're trying to look exactly like BSG."
> (Which would be ironic, as the first thing out of my mouth when the first
> episode of BSG appeared on my tv was "Oh, look, they're trying to look
> exactly like B5." <g>)
>
> Amy

I suppose under your definition what I want in that post is "gimmicky".
But for the record, what I had in mind when I used the word "heavy
handed" is also something like what they did in LotR. Again, I I fear I
have indeed been expressing myself really poor, and for that my
apologies. I wouldn't want them to use grading to make B5 look like a
radioactive wasteland, or anything like that. I think when I said mood
and atmosphere, that at least was pretty clearly expressing what I had
in my head. It's more about... making use of the flexibility of the
more modern forms of grading to create something unique, and push the
edges a bit in that department.

I've made some screenshots of LotR (which was graded with a digital
intermediate) to illustrate how big of a change the grading made
happen, without ever getting particularly obtrusive, or calling
attention to itself. And yet, if you see the before and after I think
you would agree it is done with a pretty heavy hand, but in a good way.
If you know the before, you'll see the big difference, but if not, it
shouldn't be obtrusive, or jump out as just a 'gimmick'. You can find
them here: http://tinyurl.com/ykcqod

-Shabaz


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