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Skriven 2005-05-02 05:28:36 av MARNIE TROSCLAIR (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av STEVE ASHER
Ärende: Cyc, AI, Singularity
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Hello Steve,  
 
MT> I'm trying to imagine where you're going with this, and  
MT> I think I have a fairly good idea. 
 
SA> Hmmm, well, I have no idea where I am going with this,  
SA> except that it -might- be connected in some way to the  
SA> image of the beast.  
 
Well, the first thought is that it's rather ironic that we're 
contemplating the creation of a golem, an act associated with 
rabbis, while the "image of the beast" would appear to be  
more closely linked to the oppressor of Jews or believers. 
 
Revelation's "image of the beast" which people are forced to worship 
has its parallel in Daniel 3 where Nebuchadnezzar, the king of  
Babylon, creates an image of gold which all are commanded to worship. 
 
And, since Revelation is speaking of the city, represented by a 
woman with MYSTERY written upon her forehead, which goes by the name 
of Babylon, it seems the comparison to Nebuchadnezzar's act is 
more appropriate. 
 
That said, I'm also reminded of the "golden calf" that was created 
and worshiped by a rebellious group are the base of Mount Sinai 
while Moses was away.  He later came down with commandments etched 
in stone.   
 
This prompts thoughts about the stone cut from a mountain without 
hands which figures in Nebuchadnezzar's dream (Daniel 2).  This  
stone strikes at the base of a towering figure in Nebuchadnezzar's 
dream and causes it to crumble.  The stone then grows in size until 
it becomes a great mountain that "fills the whole earth."  Daniel 
interprets this stone as a kingdom which God will set up, a kingdom 
which shall never be destroyed, a kingdom that shall stand forever. 
 
Maybe we can talk about that "stone" and the kingdom when we turn 
our attention to the Temple Mount and the building of temples. 
 
SA> ... there are two sets of markings, sealings, or numberings to  
SA> take place.  
 
The marks, seals, numbering of the people is often linked to the 
hands and foreheads.  Here are a few related passages: 
 
Exodus 13:9 
Exodus 13:16 
Deuteronomy 6:8 
Deuteronomy 11:18 
Revelation 7:3 
Revelation 14:1 
 
Perhaps you're more interested in focusing on the "mark of the beast" 
referenced in Revelation 13?  It's in Revelation 13:16-17 where you  
find reference to a mark received in the forehead or the right hand, 
without which no man can buy or sell, lest he have the name of the 
beast or the number of his name.  Whatever that means, eh?  :-) 
 
Revelation 13:18, in the King James version, gives the number of the 
beast as "six hundred threescore and six."  The very next entry is  
Revelation 14:1 which speaks of "an hundred forty and four thousand, 
having his Father's name written in their foreheads." 
 
Turning our attention back to all of this writing upon or in foreheads, 
I was wondering if you were familiar with this passage: 
 
 Among the signs of the Hour will be the emergence of a beast  
 from the earth. It will be very strange in appearance, and  
 extremely huge; one cannot even imagine what it will look like.  
 It will emerge from the earth and shake the dust from its head.  
 It will have with it the ring of Solomon and the rod of Moses. 
 
 People will be terrified of it and will try to run away, but they  
 will not be able to escape, because such will be the decree of Allah.  
 
 It will destroy the nose of every unbeliever with the rod, and  
 write the word "Kafir" on his forehead; it will adorn the face of  
 every believer and write the word "Mu'min" (true believer) on  
 his forehead, and it will speak to people. 
 
http://members.lycos.co.uk/yusufsdomain/judgment10.html#1 
 
I'm trying to put together a set of correspondences given my limited 
understanding of the subjects.  It's not easy.  Maybe someone can help. 
Here's what I'm working with: 
 
Similarities between legends involving the golem of Judaism,  
the Apocalyptic vision of the "beast" in the Bible, and the end-time 
scenario involving the Dijjal and "beast" in the Koran. 
                             
golem           emet  (truth)          met  (death) 
 
Old Testament   tav (righteous         death 
                in Jerusalem) 
 
New Testament   X or + (believer)      mark of the beast 
                Christ, Messiah        name of the beast 
                Father's name          number of his name 
                Savior                  
 
Koran           mu'min (believer)      kfr, kafir (non-believer) 
 
 
 
 
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