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Skriven 2007-02-27 20:43:00 av JIM WELLER (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av BURTON FORD
Ärende: Gulyas
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 BF> I got very confused on this.   Both the NET and the recipes I saw here
 BF> for various Gulyas's seemed weird to me...... the web says Gulyas was
 BF> Hungarian Goulash.

Yes. Gulyas is a Hungarian word. Goulash is the English pronunciation
of the word.

The original, traditional truly Hungarian dish was cubes of beef
browned in lard and then stewed with onion, garlic and lots of paprika
for seasoning.

The use of olive oil, ground beef, sour cream, wine, tomatoes,
vegetables etc were later adaptations of the original by other
nationalities.

 BF> And that's where I threw a rod.   My mother used to make Hungarian
 BF> Goulash, and it had hamburg, tomatoes, and elbow macaroni's as the
 BF> chief ingredient.  Shirley 's Mom made it the same way.

 BF> I don't recall seeing macaroni in the recipes discussed here,
 BF> including Ian's discourse.

 BF> Where am I going wrong?   Is "Hungarian Goulash," as made in my era,
 BF> another matter completely, an "American" dish?

Yep. What your Mom, and Shirley's (and mine) made is not really a
gulyas. But it's a classic American dish in its own right.

Depending on the nationality and location of one's parents, or the
addition of tomato soup, grated cheese, or a timid amount of chile
powder that dish might also get called:

All in One Macaroni
American Chop Suey (weirdest name of all!)
Beef And Mac Combo
Beef Pasta Skillet Dinner
College Casserole
Dog Food  (kid's name for it)
Ground Beef Goulash
Hamburger Mac
Hamburger Supper
Hoosier Chili (ha!)
John Torre
Johnny Mazetti (Italian)
Mac-Burger Casserole
Macaroni And Tomato Casserole
Macaroni Ground Beef Casserole
Macaroni Skillet Supper
Makaronia Se Forma Me Kima (Greek)
Minnesota Minestrone (another name to infuriate the purists!)
Slumgullion  (Irish)
Skillet Beef and Macaroni
Texas Goulash
Wednesday Night Surprise

Clear now?

I generally call it Hamburger Mac when I make it. And I usually jazz it
up more than my Mom did, with celery, green peppers, spices, herbs and
hot sauce but it's essentially the same dish.




Cheers

Jim, in Yellowknife




... It's certainly not gulyas but, of course, it is goulash.
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