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Skriven 2007-10-30 16:08:12 av Carol Shenkenberger (1:261/1466.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Glen Jamieson
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 GJ> Hurrah!  Messages back from xxcarol at last.

Grin, one of many.  I was trying to combine a few to make it easier as you
catch back up.
 
 GJ> I was wondering, now that you and yours are in America, do you
 GJ> normally still eat with chopsticks at home, or do you do the knife and
 
 CS> They are in the shipment so just using usual western-style implements.

 GJ> That is reasonable, so she can automatically deal with whatever food
 GJ> she gets, wherever she gets it.  A proper education.

Yes.  he's not as facile with chopsticks as Don and I, but she doesnt drop food
in her lap either.  Can shovel with the best <g>.
 
 CS> Using the spoon or fork to shuffle the food on the other implement. 
 CS> Very  'filipeno' and I'm used to seeing that too.  Heard-tell a new
 CS> teacher in Sasebo
 CS> hadnt seen it before and got on one of the kids at lunch for 'improper
 CS> table  manners'.  Caused quite a small local storm ;-)

 GJ> That is pathetic!  Where does that teacher think s/he is!  I would

Thats what we all said.  It was a 'he' and 'he' was new to asia.  Heard-tell
the
principal (a 'she') sat and ate lunch with him (doing the filipeno shuffle)
and explained better on cultural differences. There is nothng awkward or bad in
the 'shuffle eating' technique.

 GJ> hope she has learnt to adjust her attitude.  When I was young that sort
 GJ> of thing was considered important, and the rules of eating etiquette
 GJ> had to be strictly followed if you didn't want to be considered "lower
 GJ> class".  Children were taught to hold their knife "just so", keep

Same idea that teacher had, but less awareness of a differnt version of what
was 'proper'.  (for those not following, filipeno eating with western
implements
is 1 hand has a fork and the other a spoon and you push the food onto your fork
or spoon with the other hand instead of scouping it up which is considered 
slightly bad manners there.  Other versions use a butter knife and spoon or
fork
and push the food on with the butter knife).
 
 GJ> their elbows in, not to talk with food in the mouth, etc etc.  With the
 GJ> coming of "internationalisation" of food, a lot of these rules have
 GJ> perforce gone by the wayside, which makes the life of kids much
 GJ> easier. 

Mom taught me all that.  I didntmind as she wasnt draconian if we slumped now
and again as we did it.  It came in good stead in more than one fancy place.
Most recently, that Japanese Italian fusion place with 7 forks and 3 spoons.
Showed Charlotte how you start at the outside and work your way in and how at
the end they remove them all then bring a new set for the dessert dish.

 GJ> The Asian recipes here sometimes say to allow one cup of uncooked rice
 GJ> per Asian and half a cup per Australian when planning a meal.  This is
 GJ> generally fairly correct, although I have found it better to allow one
 GJ> and a half cups per young Asian male.
 
 CS> 3/4 cup for us to 1 cup for most meals.  Oh, and I got the rice to
 CS> come out a  little better.  Almost out of that rice now.  Trick was to
 CS> make 6 cup yield and it's 'ok enough'.

 GJ> According to my calculations that much rice makes you about 3/4 Asian.
 GJ> :)

Hehe yup!

 GJ> To use up the rest of the 6 cups of that rice you can make a fried
 GJ> rice. 

Been doing lots of that.  We finally got some calrose though.  I'll make that
tonight with Don's experimental chicken (Datu Puti Soy, fenugreek, sake, zatar,
garlic, and a few drops of cholula hot sauce).

            xxcarol
  
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