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Skriven 2006-09-26 07:09:00 av MICHAEL LOO (1:123/140)
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 DS> Lynn and Maryanne to do the same:  "Oh, look, they've got shrimp
 DS> on sale, 12/16s.  Wanna get some and have them with pasta?"

That's the way I operate. Yesterday we went to the store to
get supper (my father kicking and screaming, as he wanted to
be taken out), and my brother had his heart set on catfish, of
all things. The little goon thinks that catfish is the be-all-
end-all of food because once my sister made him fix it, and, lo,
it was good - and of course he doesn't want to make it, being a
lazy so-and-so, but rather wants me to do so, and I of course
think that catfish tastes like algae and mud.

I swear he takes after his father and doesn't have taste buds.

Luckily, the catfish out there had little flyspecks on it (he
didn't notice until I pointed it out to him), plus there was
nobody at the fish counter. And there were two nice USDA Choice
porterhouses for the same price as the catfish.

The shrimp looked good, too, but he doesn't eat shrimp. And my
father doesn't eat chicken or pork any more. Thank goodness for
beefsteaks.

 DS> But, do they do things differently in California than they do 
 DS> here?  Even back in the 50's, farms here in New England have
 DS> provided outhouses for the field workers.

Here is here and there is there. Besides, it's different providing
amenities for kids who might be classmates of your own offspring
versus doing the same for a bunch of brown folks whose only
importance to you is that they work their tails off for twelve
hours for eighty bucks or less.

 DS> The number is up now; there was an 86yo woman with atherosclerotic 
 DS> vascular disease in Maryland who died, and a 23-mo toddler in Ohio, 
 DS> but from what I hear other deaths are being investigated.

Who's going to feed raw spinach to a 23-mo-old? That's child
abuse in itself, or at least unimaginable stupidity.

 DS> So, is spinach unsafe? Is there a temperature at which e. coli is
 DS> killed and the toxin destroyed?

E. coli can be killed off if all of the sample is heated to
160F for (I believe) 16 seconds. That means that the interior
has to be heated long enough that the outside is killed dead.
Thinking on normal methods of cooking the vegetable, I think
that blanching in an abundance of water should do the trick, or
steaming for an overabundant time, or, of course, deep-frying.

From what I've heard, O157:H7 produces two toxins, one heat
stable (in small quantities, so clinical insignificant) and
the other heat-destroyed (the one that makes people sick). The
latter toxin is apparently denatured at or below the temperature
that the bacteria are destroyed.

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      Title: Egg And Spinach Casserole
 Categories: Mexican, Eggs
   Servings:  8

      1 x  Vegetable Oil
      6 ea Corn Tortillas; *
      2 ea Bacon; Slices
    1/4 c  Onion; Chopped, 1 Sm.
      1 ea Clove Garlic; Finely Chopped
      2 tb Margarine Or Butter
      1 tb Vegetable Oil
      2 c  Tomatoes; Chopped, 2 Md.
      1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper
    1/4 ts Nutmeg; Ground
      1 lb Spinach; Fresh, Chopped
      8 ea Hard Cooked Eggs; Lg, Peeled
      1 c  Basic Green Sauce; **
      4 oz Cheese; Shredded, ***

  *      The Corn Tortillas should be 6 to 7-inches in diameter. ** See
  Sowest 2 for the recipe. *** Use either Monterey Jack or Chihuahua cheese
  in this recipe. Heat the oven to 400 degrees F. Heat 1/8-inch of vegetable
  oil in an 8-inch skillet over medium heat, just until hot. Cook the
  tortillas, one at a time, in the oil until crisp, about 1 minute. Drain on
  paper towels and then cut them into small pieces. (NOTE: You could use
  tortilla chips where they are available.) Cook and stir the bacon, onion,
  and garlic in the margarine and 1 tbls of vegetable oil, in a 10-inch
  skillet until the onion is tender. Stir in the tomatoes, salt, pepper, and
  nutmeg.  Simmer uncovered for 3 minutes, stirring occasionally. Add the
  spinach, cover and cook until the spinach is wilted, about 3 minutes. Line
  the bottom of an ungreased square 8 X 8 X 2-inch pan with the tortilla
  chips or pieces. Spread the spinach mixture over them. Cut the eggs
  lengthwise into halves and arrange them on the spinach mixture. Pour the
  Basic Green Sauce over the eggs; sprinkle with the cheese and bake,
  uncovered until the cheese is melted, abut 15 minutes.

  From an Internet file called Sowest1.

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