Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   33431
COOKING_OLD1   11494/24719
COOKING_OLD2   14397/40862
COOKING_OLD3   0/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2065
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6002
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33946
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   24159
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   0/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12852
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4436
FN_SYSOP   41708
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13615
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16075
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22112
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   930
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4786
OSDEBATE   0/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   0/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1123
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   3250
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13300
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/341
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2056
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   0/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4289
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
Möte COOKING_OLD2, 40862 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 13150, 96 rader
Skriven 2008-09-01 13:54:00 av JIM WELLER (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av DAVE SACERDOTE
Ärende: Re: Absinthe 1
======================
-=> Quoting Dave Sacerdote to Jim Weller <=-

 DS> There really isn't that much difference between the Edwardian and
 DS> modern absinthes, Jim.  Nearly all of the horror stories originated
 DS> with the Temperance movement of the time, and the legislation banning
 DS> absinthe was also heavily lobbied in Europe by the wine industry
 DS> (which had a vested interest in getting rid of a competitor - in
 DS> France, absinthe sales had cut into wine sales sharply.)

 DS> It's my opinion that absinthe's bad reputation is the result of its
 DS> high proof (always having been in the 130+ range) and the same sort of
 DS> moralistic nannyism that exists against marijuana today.

An interesting article from www.thujone.info:

The distinctive herb in absinthe is grand wormwood (Artemesia
absinthium), and the chemical name for the principle active
ingredient in wormwood is thujone. Thujone is a terpene and is
related to menthol, which is known for its healing and restorative
qualities. In its chemically pure form, it is a colourless liquid
with a menthol-like aroma. Oil of Artemesia absinthium (or wormwood
oil as it's usually called) is approximately 40-60% thujone.

Thujone - pronounced "thoo-jone" with a soft 'J' - is a naturally
occurring substance, also found in the bark of the thuja, or white
cedar, tree, and in other herbs besides wormwood - including tansy
and the comon sage used in cooking. Aside from absinthe, other
popular liquors, including vermouth, Chartreuse, and Benedictine,
also contain small amounts of thujone. In fact, vermouth, which was
originally made using the flower heads from the wormwood plant,
takes its name from the German "wermut" ("wormwood").

Extremely high doses of thujone are dangerous, and have been shown
to cause convulsions in laboratory animals, but the concentration of
thujone actually found in absinthe is many thousands of times lower
than this.

Thujone's mechanism of action on the brain is not fully understood
although certain structural similarities between thujone and
tetrahydrocannabinol (the active component in marijuana) led to some
speculation in the 1970's that both substances have the same site of
action in the brain. Doubt was cast on this hypothesis almost
immediately, and more recent scientific research has completely
discredited this idea.

Some researchers have now hypothesised that the reputed "secondary
effects" of absinthe have nothing directly to do with thujone at all
- if they in fact exist at all, they may be caused by the
interaction of some of the other constituent herbs (fenchone in
fennel, pinocamphonethe in hyssop, and the anethole in anise, have
all been shown to cause epileptiform convulsions in laboratory
animals when administered in very large doses).

The effect of well-made absinthe varies from person to person, but
is typically no more marked than the mild "buzz" one gets from
drinking tequila. Generally, it can best be described as a kind of
heightened clarity of mind and vision, warmed by the effect of the
alcohol. This seems to wear off after 20 or 30 minutes. Some users
report unusually vivid dreams. Since absinthe is 55% -72% alcohol,
the alcohol's effects will in any event limit the amount of thujone
you can ingest. Most modern "legal" absinthes, in keeping with EU
regulations, contains less than 10mg of thujone per litre, and
recent research has shown that pre-ban Pernod Fils, contrary to
speculation by several authors, including Strang and Arnold in a
widely quoted 1999 British Medical Journal article, also had
relatively low thujone levels.

Increasingly it seems clear in fact that well-made absinthes
following authentic traditional recipes seldom have thujone levels
much in excess of 35mg/l, the EU standard for thujone in bitters (a
category that can, in practice, include absinthe), and many quite
naturally fall under the 10mg/l level. It seems that irrespective of
the quantity of wormwood used, relatively little thujone makes it
through the distilling process into the final distillate. So the
entire historical demonization of absinthe based on its allegedly
high thujone content now appears to have been based on a wholly
false premise.

The high thujone levels claimed by many Czech and German made
"absinths" are invariably false (in fact, some of these products,
when analysed by gas chromatograph and mass spectrometer, show no
detectable thujone at all). As a rule of thumb, any absinthe
claiming exceptionally high thujone levels should be avoided, as
it's almost certainly a poor quality oil-mix, supported by bogus
marketing hype.



Cheers

YK Jim


___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
 * Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 docsplace.tzo.com (1:123/140)