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Skriven 2008-12-10 16:40:02 av Michael Loo (1:18/200.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Glen Jamieson
Ärende: Lead And Stuff 347
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 >  BM> Those and the abusive ones I can live nicely without.
 ML> Whoops, being on the borderline there (see my last post, the
 ML> end of).

See lower portion of this post.

 ML> I hope Glen is taking things with a grain of salt or at least
 ML> a dash of soy sauce.
 GJ> Cum grano salis!  Among some in my circle, abuse has been refined to
 GJ> become a form of politeness.

What, some pooftah barstid you thinking of?

 ML> Beef chow mein
 ML> cat: Japanese, what were they thinking?, really nasty
 GJ> You have collected some good reasons for NOT buying a Hitachi steamer.

Or not using it, at least. By the way, I found out how to cook
great American-style rice in the cooker - just add 10% less water.
A tiny bit of scorch appears on the bottom of the pot, but just
enough to add an intriguing taste.

= =

 GJ> In the interests of harmony in this Echo, I will try to conduct myself
 GJ> better and produce sympathetic vibrations, more in tune with the
 GJ> rhythm of the majority, rather than go too off-beat and Drum up
 GJ> opposition from the Echo Priest.

Not me, I prefer a touch of dissonance now and then. Just a
touch, and only for the benefit of those who appreciate it.

 GJ> Thankyou.  I don't fully agree with your translation
 ML> What part don't you agree with?
 GJ> "ac".  I thought "and" was "et".

Mmmmm. I could be really insulting here, but let it be pointed out
that (there are some disadvantages to having hidden one's light under
a bushel) you are talking to someone who has a degree from the
greatest, or at least the richest, university in the world, one of
the requirements of which particular degree was a reasonable facility
in sight-translation among Latin, French, and English. Questioning me
on such a simple matter would not be unlike challenging you on your
estimation of the efficiencies of one- versus two-stroke engines,
something that I do not arrogate any particular expertise about.

Anyhow.

1. There is, in good translation, often reliance on paraphrase or
not-quite-exact wording in order to preserve the gist and flow of
a piece of writing;

2. Ac means and. Just because et also does doesn't mean that ac
doesn't as well. Ac is a contraction for atque, which is usually
translated "and," "in addition to," or "together with," depending
on the context. Etymologically speaking, the last, "together with,"
is the most true to the original, but the least true to the context
of the quotation, where "together with" would have to be further
explained as "taken together with as concepts" as opposed to
"boiled together with."

3. If you don't have an alternative translation but just some
vague misgiving about some vocabulary word (which, I must say,
any second-semester high-school Latin student would have learned),
it appears a little insulting to doubt my word on this.

 GJ> If the defruta and/or the sapas was fermented and then reduced by
 GJ> boiling in (?) containers, the alcohol would be boiled off.

Remember, back in the day, sugar was prized as much as ethanol.
I believe that this stuff was boiled down without fermentation,
hence the welcome of the "sugar of lead" in wine where sweetness
was an important goal. As far as your (?) goes, Pliny does point
out that the stuff should be boiled in leaden rather than bronze
vessels.

 ML> Yeah, but you are looking for evidence of behavior from 2000
 ML> years ago.
 GJ> I admit that an engraved Roman lead plaque that I saw on my TV this
 GJ> morning was quite seriously pitted with corrosion after 1900 years, so
 GJ> if an ancient Roman had been drinking from a lead vessel for 1900
 GJ> years, and it had corroded to that extent, he would probably have
 GJ> ingested a fatal amount of lead.

Silly and irrelevant! A lead vessel buried in an archaeological
site for any substantial time would have corroded without the
extra step of catering some Roman Methuselah.

==

 ML> All of these are in the region geographers refer to as
 ML> Central Pacific but is vernacularly called South Pacific,
 GJ> Only by a very few North Pacific countries - perhaps only 2?
 ML> I wonder how many Europeans would place Hawaii in the
 ML> North Pacific.
 GJ> Probably most of the ones who hadn't been subjected to USA influence
 GJ> on such matters.  Hawaii is so far north that it is barely in the
 GJ> Tropics. 

Now it's my turn to ask for evidence. I went to German Google and
asked for "south pacific" (as well as "sud pacifische," which turns
out to be a really rare term), and there was some confusion.

 GJ> I had better warn you that a team of New Zealand rugby players is
 GJ> gathering to perform a haka outside your dressing room after your next
 GJ> concert.  They are armed and dangerous, and Kiri te Kanawa is urging
 GJ> them on.  Beware!

I'd rather take on the rugby players than Kiri, and not because
they're cuter but because I'd rather die heroically than after
striking and subsequently being sat on by a lady. Speaking of
the various subjects of this message, I played Nothing Like a
Dame yesterday, and at the rehearsal the day before, the flute
player asked the keyboard player if he had a lead sheet (I am
not kidding)(the answer was no).

 ML> Chili chicken breasts (low calorie)
 ML> cat: Japanese, what were they thinking?, main, low calorie
 GJ> That is adding injury to insult!

This was a perfect cue for the recipe for Brunwiches, but I
discover I wasted that on Clean Dave. So, and anyhow this is
more up your alley, if only just by a little ...

Bailey's cherry cafe
cat: booze, trendy, nasty
servings: 1

2 oz Bailey's Coffee Irish Cream
1 oz Captain Morgan spiced rum
1 ds maraschino cherry juice

Rim a martini glass with cinnamon and sugar.
Drizzle cherry juice in the bottom. Shake
liquors with ice. Strain into glass.

Philadelphia Magazine 11/08

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