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Text 20792, 176 rader
Skriven 2009-02-13 20:43:02 av Carol Shenkenberger (27335.cooks)
  Kommentar till text 20773 av Ruth Haffly (1:396/45.28)
Ärende: Home and helping
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 >  > Six feet is enough space to put a number of small appliances. It's
 >  > probably the size of one of our kitchen counter tops.  I have the
 > 
 >  CS> I'm thnking and may have to short that a bit so as to not block the
 >  CS> sliding glass door side.  I'm seriously thinking an island on wheels
 >  CS> with the outlets just high enough to butt it against is the answer,
 >  CS> plus overtop installed to the wall cabinets.

 > Sounds like it might be a better idea.  If the sliding door opens to a
 > patio area, then I'd made sure to keep it unblocked.

It does and is pretty much the whole back wall that isnt used up by a sliver
of counter and the stove.  Of course, you cant have both doors open at once
with a sliding glass door so it wouldnt 'really' change access as it would be
the other wall side, but it *might* be a code issue here.  A movable island
would not be.  They sell them with locking feet so you can scoot them about
and then park them and lock the wheels.

 >  CS> No code issues created by blocking part of the exterior access and
 >  CS> when the door has to be replaced, will be alot cheaper if they can
 >  CS> just roll the 'cabinet' out of the way.
 > 
 >  CS> That might be just the fix for here.  As you can tell, I'm in no rush
 >  CS> to do this wrong before i think about it.
 > 
 > Measure twice, cut once sort of thought.  I've gone back and reworked
 > sewing project that I wasn't quite happy with after a bit but they're
 > not as set in stone as a remodel job.

True.  If I have a cabinet installed that blocks and the code guys get antsy,
I'd eithr have to take it out, or take out the door and put in a regular
exterior small door, neither of which appeal to me.

Taking my time as you see.

 >  > (There are 2 double outlets on that wall.)  We also keep the bananas
 >  > there (moved so they don't get over ripe from the heat when I make
 >  > bread), the basket for napkins and a few other misc items.
 > 
 >  CS> For me, baby crock, microwave, breadmaker, and might get a coffee pot
 >  CS> again if i have space to leave it out.
 > 
 > We have the microwave on a cart in the dining room; the wheel sockets
 > were ruined on the last move so the cart is set in a corner near the
 > kitchen.  Got the cart back in 1984 when we got our first microwave so
 > it's had a good long life.  The baby crock, big crock and breadmaker are
 > all stowed away, either in the pantry or in a lower cabinet. We don't
 > have enough counter space to keep all our small appliances out at the
 > same time.

It's all really based on what we each use most.  I envision the island taking
my appliances (my most used, crockpots, breadmaker, ricemaker) and then the
big part over the dishwasher becomes purely prep space.  Big enough for our
needs.

 >  > One place we rented had a total of 4 outlets in the 2 bedroom house, 2
 >  > outlets in the kitchen, 1 in the living room and I've forgotten (bath
 >  > room maybe?) where the last one was.  Steve wired in more so that we
 > 
 >  CS> Ouch.  Had an apartment a bit low like that but wasnt that bad.
 >  CS> Current house has no outlets in the bathrooms at all.
 > 
 > Planning to put one or two in eventually? It's always nice to have more
 > than you think you'll need--you will end up using them. (G)

Really, we do not miss the outlets the bathroom except once in a blue moon. 
I think the last (and first) time I really noticed it was when I washed my
hair just before work then went looking for a hair dryer and couldnt find
one, them remembered there wasnt an out let there so I'd have to plug it in
elsehere.  I havent used a hair dryer since getting back and this was over a
year after getting back before I noticed we dumped it to lighten weight
limits ;-)

Adding them to both bathrooms is a 'when we get to it' improvement that we
may never bother with.  Real low on the priority list ;-)

 >  >  CS> If I do the kitchen mini-job, the china cabinet has to move.  There
 >  >  CS> will no longer be wall space for it.
 > 
 >  > There should be room somewhere else. Most places we've lived, we've
 >  > had to put the buffet in the living room as there was no proper dining
 >  > room or room in the dining area. It's a big old antique one we were
 >  > given while in Germany--my "Over my dead body will it be given away"
 >  > piece of furniture. (G) But sometimes it is fun trying to figure out
 >  > where to put it.
 > 
 >  CS> Yeah, this is a piece like that.  It will always be here someplace.
 >  CS> That and my dining table and the japanese table.
 > 
 > But you're settled now; we still have a bit of moving to do.

True, so we still have favorite pieces.  China cabinet and the flip down oak
dining table are my favorites ;-)

 >  >  CS> off for now. The 70Gallon fish tank is a particular problem to move.
 >  CS>  >
 >  > Do the carpets in the summer so some of the stuff can go on the unheated
 >  > porch.  You may have to rent a storage facility for a month--which is
 >  > longer than needed for the carpet job but I don't think they do by the
 >  > week rentals--for your stuff.  The fish tank will be a challenge but I'm
 >  > sure some solution can be found (put them in the bath tub?). (G)


He I have a spare tank that will work.  JUst a baby at 40gallons but it will
hold them well enough.

 >  CS> Sun room actually.  Its dry all the time and the porch isnt.  I do
 >  CS> know a good storage place.  In fact, we have a long term storage there
 >  CS> still
 >  CS> (cleaning out this weekend we hope).
 > 
 > That would work for all but the fish.  Does Daisy like to watch them?
 > Our Jenny-cat would sit on top of the tank, looking down in for hours.
 > Every once in a while, a paw would come down the side and be withdrawn
 > in frustration. (G)

Daisy isnt allowed up on the tank top.  The only spot she can leap to, has a
1.5ft godzillla telling her 'come play with me, heheehe' blocking her.  But,
we have one of those kitty perches of just one level that's purrfect on the
floor to stand on and watch'kitty TV' from right at the front of the tank. 
All furniture is carefully placed so she cant get at the tank except that
way. See, had a cat once crash through a hood and dang near start an
electrical fire many moons ago.  Hence, I am real careful of that scenario
unless the hood is deigned to hand it and this one is not.

 > Save a seat for me. (G)

At a kitchen table at a picnic?  LOL!  

 >  CS> I plan to add a new picnic table in the porch area (yes, it's that
 >  CS> big).  I could fit 2 in there but I think a lighter temp table would
 >  CS> be best as we wont want 2 in there all the time and they are kinda
 >  CS> hard to move.
 
 > Besides, how often do you need 2 picnic tables? If you do host the
 > picnic and IF we an make it, we've got a portable table with 4 seats
 > attached we could bring along.  Got it for camping in Europe where no
 > tables are furnished.

Yes, That would be just the ticket!

I'm pricing decent tables with attached seating.  I think it's safer with our
crowd if you dont have to worry if someone rocks a bit if the 'bench' cant be
flipped over because it's attached.  I'm looking at ones with a back to them
as well but also at just a secondary table with some comfy plastic seats of a
sturdy type with arms that can be stacked and a large long almost card table
thing would work in addition to the picnic table.

 >  CS> shifted to a more native to me feeling greek-arabic for that sort of
 >  CS> dish.
 > 
 > Could be some sewing lessons somewhere along the line.  I was raised on
 > a poor imitation of Italian but learned fast, once I married Steve.
 > That is probably the cusine I"m most comfortable cooking but I do get
 > into others from time to time just for the variety--and to try stuff I
 > pick up here & there that looks interesting.

I think we all do at certain levels.  We just may not be aware of it all the
time?

 >  CS> I know.  I'm weird.  Even developed a new one.  Cajasian.
 >  CS> Cajun-asian.  I'll start doling out some of the new taste sensations
 >  CS> shortly ;-)
 > 
 > Sort of like spicy Chinese?

Well some chinese is very spicy!  It's more a different treatment.  Think, 
octopus gumbo for starts?  Old Bay Tempura fried asian eggplant.

What can I say, I like to play with my food and Mom tried to teach me not to
but wasnt too successful obviously (grin).
                xxcarol

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