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Skriven 2009-05-15 10:34:00 av Glen Jamieson
     Kommentar till en text av Hap Newsom
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Greetings, Hap,
 -> 
 ->  DS> You completely misunderstand the tactical and strategic uses of
 ->  DS> submarines.  Think harder.
 -> 
 -> The ones equipped with ICBMs could be quite useful to plop some bangs
 -> on the loonies after they have wiped out your major cities, but our
 -> subs appear to be designed for waging the old style wars where they
 -> lie quietly undetected, then shoot torpedos at destroyers, just like
 -> in the international "war games" they periodically play with the other
 -> local navies.  Dunno what else they could do?

Thanks for bringing the voice of experience into this discussion.

 HN> Key word is "undetected"...they can (a) gather
 HN> intelligence data from foreign shores,(b) insert
 HN> operational teams ashore, (c) track enemy sea
 HN> maneuvers, (d) destroy enemy surface vessels,
 HN> (e) protect friendly vessels and shipping lanes,
 HN> (f)launch conventional warheaded cruise missles
 HN> at enemy targets both at sea and ashore. Again
 HN> all the above while remaining "undetected". The
 HN> new generations of diesel electrics require less
 HN> crew, and while they have a more limited range
 HN> and depth profile than some of their predecessors,
 HN> they are much more suited to "inshore" operations
 HN> than their deep sea cousins.

(a) is a good one, although much of that intelligence is now provided
by satellites.  Re (b), not being a particularly belligerent nation,
Australia is not likely to insert operatives into another country, but
the submarines could be useful to unobtrusively pick up operatives or
high profile refugees from other countries.  (That was something I
hadn't thought of.)  These days satellites can do (c) quite
effectively.  The submarines can certainly do (d), but fortunately we
don't seem to have any enemies with ships at present.

At present the main friendly vessels needing protection (e) are in the
Strait of Malacca and the Indian Ocean which are subject to piratical
attacks. I don't know how fast our new submarines are, but if they
could out-run the pirates' speedboats and have the range they could be
quite useful there. Naturally I don't know what weaponry our new subs
are likely to be equipped with, but medium range cruise missiles would
be a logical addition to expensive torpedoes.  A small cannon to fire
at the pirates would be useful.

I still think that the main purpose of our government's announcement
that 12 submarines would be built here was political, intended to
prepare voters for the next election - but then I am rather cynical
about governments and their promises.

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