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Skriven 2010-01-03 11:54:00 av Glen Jamieson
     Kommentar till en text av Dave Drum
Ärende: SNOW  00103
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 -=> Quoting Dave Drum to Glen Jamieson <=-

 DD> Wheeee ... all three of your replies to Me, Weller and Clean Dave)
 DD> that showed up at Holodeck showed up 9 times each. It's nothing on your
 DD> end (or your uplink) because this one showed up just the once here at
 DD> FidoTel.  

Oh, those poor people who had to face such a horror!

 GJ> In a 2-wheel drive car?
 
 DD> Well, sure. You're either a driver or you're not. And four wheel drive
 DD> is not any better on slick surfaces than two wheel drive. Worse in many

I can understand there would be little difference between the two with
regard to cornering ability, but hill climbing would be a different
matter.  Most of my slick surface motoring has been on wet clay and
similar, where I found my old VW beetle, with its 17 inch wheels was
nearly as good as a 4-WD.  On loose gravel it could slither over the
stones on its smooth underside if I had enough speed up.
 
 GJ> I would have thought that the deep tread tyres as used on 4-WD
 GJ> vehicles in Jim's neck of the woods would give a significant advantage
 GJ> on snow and/or ice.  The ways which humans have devised to enable them
 GJ> to survive in hostile environments like Jim's are quite fascinating.

 DD> Well, that would be right - in deep(ish) loose pack or powder snow or
 DD> most mud/dirt. But, not right for ice or for water slicked roads. For
 DD> slick roads, especially ice slick roads you need something like
 DD> tungsten studs embedded in the tire(s) to dig into the ice and provide
 DD> (some) traction. Or, since most legislatures have outlawed the studded
 DD> doughnuts - ones which have broken/ground black walnut shells in the
 DD> rubber - that will give some traction on
 DD> ice but does not hurt the pavement beneath when the roads are dry. Of

I've never heard of that solution before.  I have seen the crazy
Swedes ice racing on speedway bikes with spiky tyres, and wondered
what it would be like to be hit by a spinning wheel in a spill.

 DD> course, there is always the old-time solution of dis-mountable chains
 DD> which will get the job done but give you a pretty rough ride. But, the
 DD> chains are a PITA to mount and dismount. And we do live in an
 DD> increasingly convenience oriented world.   Bv)=

When experimenting with methods of enhancing grip in muddy conditions
I found one of the best was to wrap large diameter rope around the
tyres in a spiral, threading it between the wheel spokes.

 DD> None of those things will save your arse if you overcook that corner,
 DD> though. As many have found to their everlasting pain and shame.

The same over-confident 4-WD owners who try to drive along flooded
roads in Queensland - and get out of their depth or washed off the
sides into deep water and have to be rescued by boat.

A few years ago I had the rare opportunity to introduce MLoo to one of
the old fruits I knew in my youth - loquat.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05
 
      Title: Loquat Jelly
 Categories: 
      Yield: 4 Servings
 
           Loquats
           Water
           Granulated sugar
 
  Wash the loquats, cut off the rough ends and stalks and remove the
  stones. Boil the loquats in water, sufficient to flood them, till
  reduced to a pulp; strain off the juice and add an equal weight of
  granulated sugar. Boil till it jells when tested on a cold plate.
  
  country : South Africa course
  : preserve source
  : Our Best Traditional Recipes / Vida Heard and Lesley Faull From:
  Westher@xs4all.Nl               Date: 05-14-03
  
  Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:58:01 +1100
 
MMMMM
 

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