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Skriven 2010-01-06 18:25:00 av Dave Drum (37307.cooking)
     Kommentar till en text av Glen Jamieson (37292.cooking)
Ärende: Re: SLICK IS SLICK
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-=> Glen Jamieson wrote to Dave Drum <=-

 DD> resulting heat will tend to dry the clay and raise the traction. Doing
 DD> so on ice or hard-pack snow creates water which lubricates the ice -
 DD> with predictable lessening of the already minimal traction.

 GJ> I admit that I never driven on ice, which I would imagine is like wet
 GJ> grass, only more-so, in that once you started sliding you became
 GJ> supported by a film of water, which has practically no friction.

Eggs Ackley 
 
 GJ> I would have thought that the deep tread tyres as used on 4-WD
 GJ> vehicles in Jim's neck of the woods would give a significant advantage

 DD> Well, that would be right - in deep(ish) loose pack or powder snow or
 DD> most mud/dirt. But, not right for ice or for water slicked roads. For
 DD> slick roads, especially ice slick roads you need something like
 DD> tungsten studs embedded in the tire(s) to dig into the ice and provide
 DD> (some) traction. Or, since most legislatures have outlawed the studded
 DD> doughnuts - ones which have broken/ground black walnut shells in the
 DD> rubber - that will give some traction on
 DD> ice but does not hurt the pavement beneath when the roads are dry. Of

 GJ> I understand that principle.  What, then, is the difference between
 GJ> standard tyres and "all-weather" ones?  From a physics point of view,

Marketing hype and a minimal resistance to hydro-planing in very wet weather.
And some advantage on unpacked snow ... but, not as much as the deeply open
treaded mud and snow tires. As with most compromises, they are outstanding at
nothing beyond lining the rubber company's pockets.

 GJ> I would expect the best alternative to walnut or studded tyres would
 GJ> be ones with narrow blocks of tread which had a chance of slightly
 GJ> penetrating the ice to get a degree of grip.  Or doesn't that work?

Ice is harder than rubber. 

 GJ> (Thinking of how ice skates operate.)  I suppose that once a car

But, not harder than steel/tungsten.

 GJ> starts to slide, all is lost.  Do ABS brakes and traction control on
 GJ> late model cars help to prevent skating?

When the car is driven with a modicum of restraint. Unfortunately some people
think that ABS and "traction control" is a panacea for anything they wish to
attempt. Most do not realise how easy it is to overwhelm the minimal advantage
the ABS and traction control give - with predictable, and expensive results.
 
 GJ> A few years ago I had the rare opportunity to introduce MLoo to one of
 GJ> the old fruits I knew in my youth - loquat.

 DD> Here I was thinking - he already knows Keving.   Bv)=  Then you tossed
 DD> that loquat into the game.

 GJ> Hehe!  Another fruit I haven't spied lately is the gooseberry.

Several things are called by that name. You probably mean something different
by it than the tart, pale green bush berry (Ribes hirtellum) with which I am
familiar. Gooseberries are derived mostly from two species: the European
gooseberry (Ribes grossularia), native to the Caucasus Mountains and North
Africa; and the American gooseberry (the aforementioned R. hirtellum), native
to northeastern and north-central United States (including the woods on my
Grandfather's farm) and adjacent parts of Canada. So-called European cultivars
are pure species, but virtually all so-called American cultivars also have
European genes. 

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       Title: Spiced Gooseberries
  Categories: Five, Desserts, Fruits, Preserving
       Yield: 6 Pints
  
       5 lb Gooseberries
       3 lb Brown sugar
       1 pt Vinegar
       2 tb Cinnamon
       1 tb Ground cloves
  
  Wash gooseberries and remove stems. Combine sugar and
  vinegar. Tie spices in a bag and add to syrup. Bring
  liquid to a boil and add berries. Cook for 20-30 minutes.
  Pack into hot jars and seal.
   
  Luella Mosheir, Lowville, N.Y.
   
  Source: Mennonite Community Cookbook, by Mary Emma
  Showalter, 1957.

  Recipes from old Mennonite cookbooks, brought up to date
  with standard measures and directions.
   
  From: Sallie Austin
  
  From: http://www.recipesource.com

  Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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