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Skriven 2010-03-06 14:11:00 av Glen Jamieson
     Kommentar till en text av Dave Drum
Ärende: CHEESY BARSTIDS  00306
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 -=> Quoting Dave Drum to Glen Jamieson <=-

 GJ> My presumption of "American" as equivalent to "Philadelphia" was based
 GJ> solely on the styles of cheese which were allowed.  As the given list
 GJ> could have been a foreign one, the maker of the list could have given
 GJ> "American" as an alternative name.  Of course there is no "American"
 GJ> cheese sold here.

 DD> I'd be willing to bet that there is the same as "American" cheese on
 DD> offer in your country. Just under a different name.

There are store brand slices sold as "Tasty Natural Cheese",
manufactured from pasteurised milk, salt, enzymes, etc.  No "American"
or "Australian" as a type name.  Area names are given to designate
different Italian types of cheeses, although they are all made in
Australia - by Kraft.  There used to be an excellent cheese, made in
the south of the state by Mil Lel, but then Kraft bought the factory,
the quality deteriorated, and as far as I know the factory is now just
used for other Kraft products.  The best cheap cheese is "Mainland",
imported from New Zealand.
 
 DD> FROM: www.wisegeek.com
 
 DD> "American cheese in its most common form is a blend of milk, milk fats
 DD> and solids, with other fats and something called whey protein
 DD> concentrates. All the
 DD> ingredients must meet the legal definition of cheese, even if the
 DD> final result is more cheese-like. This is why many American cheese
 DD> products bear the title "cheese product" or "cheese food" on the
 DD> packaging.

I thought a cheese had to be made by the action on milk of an enzyme -
rennet derived from calf stomachs, or a chemical equivalent.
 
 DD> Cheese product, processed cheese, process cheese, cheese slice (UK),
 DD> prepared cheese, or cheese food is a food product made from normal
 DD> cheese and sometimes other unfermented dairy ingredients, plus
 DD> emulsifiers, extra salt, food colorings, or whey. Many flavors, colors,
 DD> and textures of processed cheese exist.

 DD> name American cheese also has a legal definition as a type of
 DD> pasteurized processed cheese under the U.S. Code of Federal
 DD> Regulations. 
 DD> Here is the ingredient list on the package: MILK, WATER, MILKFAT,
 DD> WHEY, WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, MILK PROTEIN
 DD> CONCENTRATE, ALGINATE, SODIUM CITRATE, APOCAROTENAL (COLOR), ANNATTO
 DD> (COLOR), ENZYMES, CHEESE CULTURE.

After reading a list like that, I can well understand why some people
in country areas want to make their own cheeses!  (Even if, like one
cheese maker here, they call it, "Udder Delights".)

 DD> FROM the hated Wikipedia:

 DD> "Singles is a processed cheese product manufactured and sold by Kraft
 DD> Foods, introduced in 1947. One of the more famous ad campaigns involved

 DD> END WIKI

 DD> And, I note that singles/slices/sandwich slices come in many
 DD> flavourings and/or
 DD> colours and may contain chilies. And may also be of "real" cheese -
 DD> especially Colby, Cheddar and Emmenthaler. "Swiss Cheese Singles"
 DD> however, are NOT Emmenthaler but "pasteurized prepared cheese product"
 DD> with appropriate colour and flavouring ... more-or-less.
 
All kinds of flavourings get added to cheeses, to the marketroids
delight.  Yoghurts are even more "got at".

 DD> American cheese used to be a blend of Colby and cheddar cheeses. These
 DD> varieties were most popular in America, and it was invented in
 DD> America, hence the name. American cheese then was sold in blocks in
 DD> delis and supermarkets. It
 DD> was preferred because of its milder flavor than cheddar."
 
 DD> This is my preferred form of "American" cheese - basically a mild
 DD> cheddar. Back to the quotes --
 
 GJ> But apparently no longer made.  Or is it?

 DD> It is the cheese that the US gummint accepts against "price supports"
 DD> and is pretty good stuff. As I have noted here before the gummint gives
 DD> this stuff (and other commodities like butter, milk powder, rice, etc)
 DD> away to low-income people or those who are willing to pretend they are
 DD> low enough income to qualify for the freebies. I have scored several 5
 DD> lb (2+ kg) blocks of this cheese and it is better than what I could buy
 DD> in the stupormarkup at an affordable price. Same for the butter. 

An interesting form of social welfare.  Possibly practiced for similar
reasons to the "card" system of pensions used in some of the small
aboriginal communities in the NT, whereby the womenfolk can get food
for the kids from the store, instead of the menfolk getting the money
and spending it all on booze.

 DD> Title: Velveeta Classic Nacho Dip

Errrr, yes - a classic.
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