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Text 3897, 205 rader
Skriven 2008-03-16 13:02:40 av Carol Shenkenberger (9878.cooks)
   Kommentar till text 3835 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
Ärende: Dogs and food
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 > > Yeah, figured i could sneak in a few 'doggie food' notes without anyone
 > > minding too much <g>.
 > 
 > <eg> :)

Grin, doggie recipes!  

 > >> Hmm... plenty of water around?  I wouldn't have expected him to get
 > >> constipated.. though I do know that when you change a dog's food, you hav
 > >> do it gradually, usually over 2-3 days is best by mixing the old with the
 > >> increasing the new more and more every day.. if you can :)  Sometimes you
 > >> don't have that choice (emergency stay at the animal hospital, etc.).
 > 
 > 
 > > Cash was fed on only dry at the caretakers, so adding wet is a difrence fo
 > > him.  He has taken well to that.
 > 
 > 
 > Oh yeah, most dogs I've seen LOVE wet dog food.. so he's not going to mind y
 > mixing that in ..

Thats what we are doing.  Also, the foster parents said they swapped food
types (all dry) on a regular basis so he's not set on one type.  He actually
probably perfers a bit of variety?  His wet food varies as well.  One day
it's chicken, another is beef, etc.

 > > Water is always there.  We have one of
 > > those things with a bottle that fills the pan below. He drinks roughly a
 > > gallon every 3 days but Don may be filling it when I do not notice.
 > 
 > Ok that's good :)  It could be that he just needed to get accomodated..
 > comfortable.. that kind of thing.. especially if he's had it rough (being
 > abandoned, etc.).  Or it could be that if you're taking him out on walks to 
 > his business, he's too busy noticing all the new territory to remember to go
 > haha


That has happened!  Along the walk to school, we need to start bringing the
pooper claw (looks like jaws which Charlotte nicknamed it).

(In the background, I hear Charlotte taking him out to play n the backyard).

 
 > >> labs though, so they are going to burn it off... I think 1 cup of dry foo
 > >> twice a day should be good for cash given the size I think he must be...D
 > >> act like he's still hungry after he finishes?... what does he weigh now d

He seems happy and reasonably full at 1 cup per feeding.

 > >> think? You should be able to run your hand down the back of his spine and
 > >> his backbone... If you feel blubber there that a fat dog, know what I mea
 > >> There's a balance in there..
 
 
 > Hmm... I'd let the rice wait until you got him going more regularly.. You ca
 > add a couple of Tablespoons of Olive Oil to his food a couple of times a wee
 > and that should help with the constipation.. If it isn't gone soon though, I
 > call your vet and find out if there's some other problem.


Naw, problem solved. He needed more wet in the food.  The rice, was a filler
that didnt seem to cause anything one way or the other.  I just knew it was
safe for him.


 > > We weighed him 'home style' by weighing Don, then Don holding Cash.  33.5
 > > lbs.  I checked this at the vet center on their scale and came same.
 > 
 > hehe.. he's a hefty boy :) :) You have to send me some pics :)


Gotta find my digital camera!


 > > I can feel his spine, but this is a 'wide' dog so it doesnt stand out much
 > > I seem to feel muscle all along that side area.
 > 
 > That's good then.  You can feel it, that's the point.  He's no where near
 > "overweight", and it's not sticking out like he's lost a lot of weight eithe

No, and since then, we have signed up for some classes.  Trainer seemed a
good sort and careful.  Concurred with us that he seems *slightly*
underweight but not enough to matter and might just be some mixed breed
traits going on there.


 > >> > Later, I'm looking at 1/4 cup warmed broth (dashi if he likes it) in hi
 > >> > morning bowl of dry kibble <g>.
 > >>
 > >> Olive oil, or a good vegetable oil on their food is good for their coats 
 > >> Whites are good for dogs too, if Charlotte leaves them around :) :) Dashi
 > >> seaweed broth can't be bad for him if he likes to slurp :)

He *loved* the Dashi.  He's nominal about chicken broth.  Likes beef broth
but I have little of that in salt free.

 > > Hehe it's low salt.  I can add a little veggie oil too.  His coat is very
 > > healthy looking to me.
 > 
 > That's neat :)

If anything, as we warm up, there might be a minor coat problem.  He's got
the 'double layer' of a beagle and seems to overheat easily.

The first week, we wondered if he knew how to bark.  Now we've learned when
he feels 'cause' he can be very vocal indeedee <g>.  THere's this one dog
nearby who's always in a backyard when we see him.  He seems 'mean' in a
overtly property protective way.  Cash first time shyed away.  Next time,
sttod right there then  started this amazing baying hunting sequence right at
him as slowly approaching.  It was funny to watch the shepard mix go to the
far side of the yard then in his dog house..

What was also amusing was the area has other beagles (or like it enough scent
hounds) and they all joined in.  I swear, it almost sounded like they had
triangulated on a prey with Cash as lead dog for a few moments.

Dont worry, he stopped after about 30 seconds and was waggey tail the whole
time.

The biggest problem with Cash is he wants to make friends with all the dogs
and until we have a clear from the vet on his heartworms, we do not allow
that.  Once cleared though the neighbor's dog Technic and he will be fast
friends <g..


 > > Guessing just from pics, he's mostly beagle, partly fox hound, and may hav
 > > touch of basset sometime back or boxer.  In fact, english boxer, foxhound,
 > > and predomanant beagle might fit?  Either way, we love him <g>>
 > 
 > Hey, that's what counts!  He's probably loving all the attention :) :)
 > 
 > >> He needs doggie cookies home-made.. hehehehe (one sec)
 > 
 > > Snagged!
 > 
 > I have more :) :)  I'll email them to ya :)

Ok!

> 
 > > Cash is now getting out evidently more than he used to.  Lets not blame th
 > > foster parents.  His health was low at the start due to heartworms and the
 > > foster 2 other dogs at the same time.
 > 
 > Yes, when he was sick with heartworms, that probably would have made it wors
 > if they pushed that kind of thing :(  These people knew what they were doing

So it seems to me.  You wouldnt believe the nitwits in the usenet newsgroup
though over that.  Supremely opinionated and completely ignorant while
blaming me for being a new dog keeper and so nothing I looked up on the web
mattered as to Cash's health and instead I was to ignore it all and do as
they 'personally found was true for all dogs and breed is irrelevant'.

The so called 'expert' is the worst of the lot.  Said to feed Cash no more
than 1/4 cup in morning, 1/4 cup at night and no more than 1 dog biscuit a
day.  Oh, and it didnt matter that Cash could *eat* a rawbone in 20 mins, but
to give 2 a day.  Good lord!  There's a reason why I watch the web pages of
the more reputable ones for my info! You excepted, most of the other info has
been pretty bad stuff.

Want the worst?  Lady with 7 week old farm puppy that was raised in the worst
way to sleep in his own mess.  She has to leave him alone 5 hours a day for
work.  I recommended either puppy pads or newspaper in the room he is left in
for that 5 hours as his bladder just cant hold it, then work outside training
the rest of the time.  Got blasted.  So called 'expert' said he can easily
hold 5 hours at 7 weeks.... and she should just concentrate on outdoor
training.  Rude 'expert' too.  Called me a moron for using the SPCA and other
reputable sites for how to work with that.

 > > He's now getting about roughly 2 miles a day and even if that's walking
 > > speed, thats more than he has had.  The minimal weight drop I seem to
 > > percieve, may actually be muscling back up.
 > 
 > Yeah, that does make sense..

Fat down just a bit, not that he had much.  Muscles in chest slightly bulding
out a bit more.  Hence, more estimate of 'bulldog' someplace in past.

He remains first fast glance:  beagle.  Second glance, bigger, muscle bound
especially in chest.

 
 > >> > I do need to learn better leash training skills.  Meantime, if I
 > >> > get 'serious toned' he listens and will stop pulling for a moment.

 > >> See if you can find this book at your library.. "Good Dog, Bad Dog: Dog
 > >> Training made easy"  by Mordecai Siegal.  It's a common sense book that t
 > >> the "two" of you through the steps you need to go through :) I used that 
 > >> my Shepherd and, boy, I was shocked.. I didn't always follow everything h
 > >> said, but took what worked for us :)
 > 
 > > Cool tip!  I'll check amazon.com <g>.
 > 
 > It worked for me.. There's another good one from England that I've been tryi
 > to remember the name of :(  Hopefully it will hit and I can let you know :)

OK thanks!  Meantime, all well.  Daisy now making simple forays out to the 
house in the daytime.  Just pokes her nose out then runs to the back of the
sofa and settles for a few minutes.  Seems to be checking the house out for a
bit.
             xxcarol

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