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Skriven 2010-09-07 09:59:26 av hap newsom (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av Jim Weller
Ärende: RE: Blackberries
========================
A berry good day to you Jim!
-> 
->  HN> I've never seen a wild raspberry! Lots
->  HN> of blackberries though!
-> 
-> I've been snooping around the net since I confessed to Dave D. that
-> I had no idea what kind of raspberries grew in my yard. I found
-> several NWT, Canadian and North American databases. One that might
-> interest you is the USDA NRCS (Natural Resources Conservation
-> Service) one. http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=RUBUS
-> 
-> It lists all species, sub-species and varieties by state and for some
-> species and states by county. Oregon is not well blessed with wild
-> red raspberries but there are a few species in a few mountainous
-> counties.
-> 
Maybe I should go visit Oregon and look for some!
Or I could stay here in WASHINGTON and see
what we have locally! (grin)

-> It lists the following as found in the NWT:
-> 
-> Rubus L. blackberry 
-> Rubus arcticus arctic blackberry
-> Rubus arcticus acaulis dwarf raspberry
-> Rubus arcticus arcticus arctic blackberry
-> Rubus arcticus pentaphylloides
-> Rubus chamaemorus cloudberry
-> Rubus idaeus strigosus grayleaf red raspberry
-> Rubus melanolasius
-> Rubus neglectus
-> Rubus paracaulis [arcticus X pubescens]
-> Rubus pubescens
-> Rubus pubescens dwarf red blackberry
-> Rubus triflorus
-> 
-> Now the NWT is a big place and some of those species are either rare
-> or found only in the extreme south near the Alberta border, like the
-> common blackberry, which I have not come across around here.
-> 
-> After running these names through Google images, I now think that
-> the commonest raspberry around here, including in my yard, is Rubus
-> idaeus or the American red raspberry.
-> 
The more I look into this the 
curiouser it seems to get! 
I looked for rubus arcticus and 
come up with Arctic raspberry,
arctic bramble, and arctic blackberry! 
The whole genus seems to be 
beset with Taxonomic anomalies,
or at the very least inconsistencies!
http://www.botany.com/rubus.html
has some good information as well, 
although the more I read the more
it seems as there is not much 
clarification between one and 
another. At least they do seem
to be able to clarify between 
blackberry and raspberry. 
Well, most of the time at
least!
chat with you soon!
hap
 
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