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Skriven 2011-08-14 05:57:00 av Dave Drum (53488.cooking)
     Kommentar till en text av Glen Jamieson (53406.cooking)
Ärende: GAMERZ
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-=> Glen Jamieson wrote to Dave Drum <=-

 DD> IOW everywhere in the civilised world EXCEPT Australia, where I
 DD> suppose that they don't have enough imagination to design a
 DD> best-selling game that will capture the interest of the money spending
 DD> youth of today.

 GJ> There is something called "AFL", which is a very popular form of
 GJ> Australian football with the youth of today.  Also Soccer and Rugby
 GJ> have increased in popularity with both sexes.  They find that more
 GJ> rewarding than gazing at a screen.  (OK, I agree that there are many
 GJ> of the halt and the lame and obese who prefer the screen games.)

 DD> Uuuuuhhhhh, Geln, don't look now but we were discussing confuser and
 DD> video games - IOW, couch potato stuff. NOT actual physical
 DD> participation sport where someone might actually make contact with the
 DD> world and thus get their magick twangers plucked.

 GJ> Because you didn't specify "puter" games, you gave me a chance to go

The *WHOLE* *FRIMPING* *THREAD* is/was about development of computers being
driven by games. What part of that did you have trouble following along with?

 GJ> off at a tangent, which is a weakness of mine.  People here are
 GJ> calling for Cadell Evans for Prime Minister.  He is a pedal pusher.
 GJ> Did Lance Armstrong inspire any comptuter gamers?

I don't know. But, I'll bet he doesn't wear pedal pushers.
 
 DD> Cost per kilowatt hour figures of $0.04 or less (in 1998 dollars) are
 DD> now commonly projected for advanced U.S. wind turbines in 17 mph or
 DD> better wind ...
 DD> (telosnet.com/wind/future.html)

 GJ> And when the turbines don't turn, the cost is infinite.  The 50 W
 GJ> Bangladeshi solar lighting installations include the battery.

Which is why such - and solar, and geothermal, etc. are hooked into a grid.
DUH!!! There is a wind power installation which I pass by several times per
week. Probably 50 or more (I've never counted them) TALL windmills. I have
seldom seen them still ... although it has happened from time to time. 

So, what happens in Bangladesh in the middle of monsoon with no sun for
extended periods and the battery goes flat? The big "wind farm" installations
are hooked into a grid. A solar powered battery with no solar is about as
useful as an oil lamp with no fuel.
 
 DD> Current cost per kW/h for coal is around $0.06. However, "Feb 16, 2011
 DD> – Accounting for these 'hidden costs' doubles to triples the price of
 DD> electricity from coal per kWh, making wind, solar, and other
 DD> renewable ... (thinkprogress.org)

 GJ> The fixed costs of capital expenditure can vary a lot, depending on
 GJ> who is calculating them, and his side in the debate.  There is also
 GJ> the cost of maintaining back-up generating capacity for turbines for
 GJ> when the wind stops blowing.

That's why they are hooked into an electric grid. Even an engineer ought to be
able to come to grips with that concept.
 
 DD> Actual production cost for nuclear generated power run about $0.017
 DD> per kW/h. However, startup, inspection, regulatory, etc. costs and
 DD> costs of perpetual storage of spent fuel run the actual cost out of the
 DD> realm of credulity. (various web-sites including the NRDC)

 GJ> There is also the high cost of dismantling nukes at the end of their
 GJ> lives, yet some countries are still building more nuke stations.

See above - that's covered under perpetual storage. 
 
 DD> costs may be found at: http://tinyurl.com/POWERITUP - assuming that
 DD> you ever get your confuser back from the repair shop.

 GJ> I will look at that later.  Hopefully my Dell will come back soon.

 DD> MY last bill from the Municipally owned electric company reflected a
 DD> summertime-adjusted price of $0.0647 per kW/h - but, we have one of
 DD> the lowest electricity rates in the US. Damned near down to
 DD> hydroelectric rates.
 DD> So, your hero's $0.15 per kW/h is pretty good - and once out the
 DD> manufacturing door does not contribute to greenhouse gasses nor burn
 DD> non-replaceable fossil fuels to further pollute the atmosphere.

 GJ> You certainly get cheap Watts.  I am charged $0.2832/kWh for the first
 GJ> 3.28 kWh/day, and higher rates as my rate of consumption increases, up
 GJ> to a top of $0.3306 for anything over 24 kWh/day.

I said that my electric rate is one of the lowest in the US.
 
 GJ> But the advertisers were just doing your bidding, and paid by you, so
 GJ> you were responsible. (And White Fang is your friend from the Tundra.
 GJ> My fangs are stained with red wine, and no longer white.)

 DD> The only adverts I paid for (other than goodwill) were small ads in
 DD> confuser user group newsletters and a small ad in the telephone
 DD> directory yellow pages. Oh, and a sign board with changeable letters
 DD> out front to attract (hopefully) passers-by. Not a single shred into
 DD> your or other postboxes. Nor any SPAM on the internet - which had not
 DD> supplanted BBSes yet.

 GJ> Well, even if you didn't personally put junk mail into my letterbox,
 GJ> it was your ilk, paying boys on bicycles to do it, so there.

Hardly. But, then again you have never let reason or truth stand in the way of
one of your misconceptions.
 
 DD> BTW - a good toothpaste will take care of that red stain.
 DD> www.teethwhiteningreviews.com

 GJ> I chose the teeth on my denture to match the colour of the naturals,
 GJ> so I would not want to change one and not the other.

So you have pink/red teeth on your appliance? If you picked the colour, why
complain, Mr. Tepes?

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

      Title: Speculaas
 Categories: Desserts, Snacks, Cookies, Nuts
      Yield: 24 servings

  1 3/4 c  Self-rising flour (200 g)
    1/2 c  Cane sugar (demerera)(100 g)
      7 tb Butter (100 g)
      3 tb Milk; as needed
      3 ts Speculaaskruiden or pumpkin
           - pie spice *
    1/2 ts  Baking soda
    1/2     Orange; fine grated zest
            Flour for the work surface

MMMMM-------------------------OPTIONAL------------------------------
      1     Egg white; beaten
            Extra brown sugar
            Flaked almonds

  Making these spicy Sinterklaas treats could not be any
  easier. The fragrant fug your home will be enveloped in
  alone will make it worth the while, not to mention their
  sweet crispy bite. Speculaas (you may know them as 'windmill
  cookies', a popular shape for commercial speculaas cookies)
  are great with tea, coffee or a glass of cognac.

  Preheat the oven to 350øF/175øC. Grease a baking sheet. Mix
  together all the ingredients in a large bowl and knead. You
  should be able to shape the dough into a ball without it
  sticking to your hands. Cover the dough ball with plastic
  wrap and set aside for an hour. This allows the spices to
  work their magic.

  Flour your work surface and press your dough into an even,
  flat layer. Using a cookie cutter, cut shapes from the dough
  and place on the greased baking sheet. Brush with egg white
  and sprinkle some brown sugar and flaked almonds on top of
  each cookie. Bake for about 25 minutes, or until you can see
  that the almonds are caramelizing and the cookies are
  turning a slightly darker shade of brown. Remove from the
  baking sheet and allow to cool on a cooling rack.

  Makes about 2 dozen speculaas cookies.

  * You can order little sachets of speculaas spices (known
  as speculaaskruiden) online. But you can easily substitute
  pumpkin pie spices. You can also make your own
  speculaaskruiden.

  The traditional method calls for using a speculaasplank, a
  carved wooden board. There is no need to go on a special
  shopping expedition, although you can find these online. A
  regular cookie cutter will do fine.

  Recipe By: Karin Engelbrecht

  From: http://dutchfood.about.com

  Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

MMMMM

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