Text 17485, 103 rader
Skriven 2011-11-06 14:46:09 av Sean Dennis (1:18/200)
     Kommentar till en text av Glen Jamieson
Ärende: BURGER BUNS  11106
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Hello, Glen.

Sunday November 06 2011 at 14:47, you wrote to me:

 GJ> One wonders about the economics of using so much fossil fuelled
 GJ> electricity to extract more fossil fuel...

There was discussion of using a small, self-contained "portable" nuclear power
cell to do the heating.  There's nothing about it in the official Shell
documentation but I've read in several places and articles across the Web that
Shell was considering this seriously at one time.

 GJ> fields beneath good farming land which relies on artesian water.  I
 GJ> don't know what chemicals are injected into the coal seams with sand
 GJ> and water, but it is claimed that they pollute the existing ground
 GJ> water, so it cannot be used for any purpose by man nor beast.  The
 GJ> farmers complain that they have no say on who drills on their
 GJ> property, or the ownership of the possible gas beneath it.  Of course
 GJ> the city dwellers appreciate the cheap COOKING (ontopic) gas.  The
 GJ> debate continues in both state and Federal parliaments.

It's been proven without a doubt here in the US that "fracking" does cause
environmental damage and even earthquakes (really, USGS report on it said that
as its conclusion!).  Unfortunately, what's cheap and easy isn't always the
best thing.  It is an ongoing problem to be solved here in the US also but,
without going into a political slant, I'll say that when the government who is
in charge of these things wants nothing to do with them, well, problems happen.

 GJ> There are arguments over that, also, in the sea between Australia and
 GJ> Timor Leste.

The big thing about ICP versus offshore oil drilling is that you can get to oil
shale at a much shallower depth than offshore oil.  There's also the pressure
point (pun intended): offshore oil drilling deals with high and really
dangerous oil pressures while ICP pressure is relatively "safe".  The oil shale
issue is big here in the US since we're sitting on the largest resource--an
estimated 6 trillion barrels--of oil shale in the world.  It's called the Green
River Formation and is located in Wyoming, Colorado, and Utah.  Conviently, 98%
of that resource is owned by the Federal government including the US Navy.
Interesting fact: after WW2, the US military took control of nearly all of the
oil shale deposits in the US.

The reason why I know so much about this: I'm currently writing a "scientific
argumentation" paper in a college English class I'm attending.  Lots and lots
of reading on this.

I'll forget it by Christmas though. :P

 GJ> And most people like to cook with gas.

Indeed.  Around here, though, natural gas is very expensive.  My home uses
natural gas for the water heater and furnace.  The gas bill is always high even
though we are on "budget billing".  That's where the gas company takes an
entire year of bills, averages them out, and charges me a set rate every month
which is supposed to help, but with all of the taxes and customer fees, it's a
killer. :P

 GJ> ___ Blue Wave/DOS v2.30 [NR]

Email me at sdennis72 at gmail dot com -- I can help with this.

Since it's the season for pumpkin over here in the States:

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

      Title: Festive Pumpkin Pie
 Categories: Cheese, Desserts, Pies
      Yield: 6 Servings

      8 oz Cream cheese; softened, 1 pk
      1 t  Cinnamon; ground
    1/2 t  Salt
      3 ea Eggs; lg
      1 c  Milk
      1 ea Unbaked 9-inch pie shell
      2 t  Sugar
    3/4 c  Brown sugar; firmly packed
    1/2 t  Ginger, ground
    1/4 t  Cloves; ground
      1 c  Pumpkin; mashed, canned
      1 t  Vanilla
      1 c  Dairy sour cream

  Cream the cream cheese, brown sugar, spices and salt together, in a
  bowl, until they are light and fluffy, using an electric mixer set on
  medium speed.  Add the eggs, one at a time, beating well after each
  addition. Blend in the pumpkin, milk, and vanilla.  Pour the mixture
  into the unbaked pie shell.  Bake in a preheated 375 degree F. oven
  for 45 to 50 minutes or until a knife inserted halfway between the
  edge and center comes out clean. Cool slightly on a wire rack.
  Meanwhile blend the sour cream and sugar together and spread over the
  top of the warm pie. Return the pie to the oven and bake an
  additional 3 to 5 minutes or just until the topping is set.  Cool on
  a wire rack. Cover and chill in the refrigerator before serving.

MMMMM

Later,
Sean

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