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Skriven 2011-02-27 11:40:00 av DAVE DRUM (1:261/1381)
     Kommentar till en text av GLEN JAMIESON
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Glen Jamieson Said to Dave Drum about LOCATION LOCATION 10226

GJ>  DD> Be glad you're not working with the truth, then. The first
GJ>  DD> recorded  European sighting of the Australian mainland and the
GJ>  DD> European first recorded landfall on the Australian continent
GJ>  DD> were attributed to the Dutch navigator Willem Janszoon. The
GJ>  DD> Dutch charted the whole of the western and northern coastlines
GJ>  DD> of "New Holland" during the 17th  century, but made no attempt
GJ>  DD> at settlement. Predating Cook by quite a span of years.

GJ>  DD> Sorry (but, not very) to be so pedantic and burst your
GJ>  DD> bubble(s). Joggerfy (geography) is a hobby of mine.

GJ> Are you sure you are not getting confused with Abel Janszoon Tasman,
GJ> who sailed around these parts in 1642?  He charted some of the
GJ> Northern coastline, and sailed between Van Diemen's land and the
GJ> mainland of New Holland.  Cooky charted the East coast, and took
GJ> possession of the country - or at least the Eastern part of it - for
GJ> Britain.  He did not mention to the local inhabitants that he had
GJ> done so.  They learnt of that later.

http://www.nla.gov.au/exhibitions/southland/Char-Willem_Janszoon.html

Also: http://www.voc.iinet.net.au/duyfken.html

Please note that these are BOTH Australian sources.

GJ> The first accurate charting of the whole of Terra Australis was done
GJ> by Matthew Flinders and George Bass, who finished that job in 1803.
GJ> Part way around the country, they met Frenchman Nicholas Baudin
GJ> doing the same thing, going the other way.  As Britain and France
GJ> were at war at that time, they were technically enemies, but as they
GJ> were scientific types and not military, they ignored European
GJ> squabbles and in one of the first examples of Australian
GJ> multiculturalism, decided to have dinner together.  Naturally, it
GJ> was on the French ship, as their cuisine was far better than the
GJ> Brits.  

I only referenced "The first recorded European sighting of the 
Australian mainland and the European first recorded landfall on the 
Australian continent ... "

GJ>  GJ> Not on the original map.  On that the lot is called "Amerigo".

GJ>  DD> I really don't care about an inaccurate scrap of parchment.
GJ>  DD> They could have called it Incognita for all that Vespucci
GJ>  DD> understood about it.

GJ> That map was more or less, generally correct enough so that I could
GJ> recognise that it was your patch of dirt.

Do you still need to get those cataracts taken care of??

GJ>  GJ> posters, which are then burnt.  Young Jim, however, has pointed
GJ>  GJ> out the best collective name that I was looking for - "The
GJ>  GJ> Americas".

GJ>  DD> Does not obviate the fact that there are TWO separate
GJ>  DD> continents - into  either of which one could drop your
GJ>  DD> "continent" and it would be  swallowed up without a trace. And
GJ>  DD> the Americas are named separately on all the maps of any
GJ>  DD> currency. End of story, no matter what you wish were  true.

GJ> According to some references I have seen, sometimes they are divided
GJ> into North, Central and South America.

I have _NEVER_ seen the area referenced as Central America called a 
continent. It is, properly the southernmost, isthmian portion of the 
North American continent, which connects with South America on the 
southeast. When considered part of the unified continental model, it is 
considered a subcontinent. So, Central America is no more a continent 
than is India (which is also a sub-continent).

GJ> Even you use "the Americas" (as above), so rather than list all the
GJ> countries on that double continent, if I wish to, I presume I can
GJ> use that term with your approval.  After all, there are some
GJ> products which are common to most of the Americas, such as corn,
GJ> possums, potatoes and chillies - and zucchini.

I use "the Americas" only peripherally, and only when referencing the 
major land masses in the Western Hemisphere. When referring to the 
separate continents I refer to them by their commonly accepted names of 
North America and South America. And to the countries by their commonly 
accepted English names ... although, I will, at time, call one of the 
non-U.S.A. countries by either it's actual political name - or a 
pejorative (such as Canuckistan) for humourous effect. 

I do hope to not burn any bridges - for if the Alaskan Ding-bat gets 
elected President in 2012 I hope to be on the figurative "Last Train 
From Shanghai" to Canada or New Zealand (where I understand property may
be bought cheaply these days) where I will apply for political refugee 
status.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06
 
      Title: Shanghai Duck
 Categories: Oriental, Poultry, Herbs
      Yield: 8 servings
 
      8 lg Scallions; in 2"/5cm lengths
      2 md Star anise; broken in 16
            - sections
      2 sl Gingerroot; 1.25"/31 cm dia
      5 lb (2 kg) Duck
      1 c  Dark soy sauce
      1 c  Light soy sauce
      1 c  Water
    3/4 c  Sugar
           Honey
 
  Put the scallions, star anise and gingerroot in a
  heavy pot. Place the duck, breast side up in the pot.
  Mix the remaining ingredients and pour over the duck.
  Cover and bring to a boil. Simmer for about two hours
  or until tender, turning every half-hour.

  Remove duck from pan and place on a shallow dish, rub
  honey on duck, place duck in a 400øF/2045øC oven just
  until crispy...not too long.

  Remove and chop into small pieces. Reserve liquid and
  serve at the table as a sauce. Sometimes I thicken it
  a little but most of the time we just serve it as is.
 
  From: http://www.recipesource.com

  Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

MMMMM

ENJOY!!!

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